tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post569738457185869376..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Dummy runnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-4002682439570368722009-03-19T08:58:00.000+00:002009-03-19T08:58:00.000+00:00Quicky - A lot of people do. We all know someone w...Quicky - A lot of people do. We all know someone who's had a bad experience in hospital, despite the government's endless praise for the health service.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-68273753263413450402009-03-19T04:43:00.000+00:002009-03-19T04:43:00.000+00:00anything that improves the safety of patients is f...anything that improves the safety of patients is fine by me - I hate hospitals - really hate themPaddy in BA (Quickroute)https://www.blogger.com/profile/12748161252400814925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-54155316986485913382009-03-18T13:12:00.000+00:002009-03-18T13:12:00.000+00:00Grow Up - Quite, you would think a tracheotomy was...Grow Up - Quite, you would think a tracheotomy was a fairly basic procedure they would be familiar with! This obsession with targets across all the public services can often do more harm than good, if tangible, physical care is being forgotten about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-22797455926949023742009-03-18T10:44:00.000+00:002009-03-18T10:44:00.000+00:00Good suggestion, though we are all very slightly d...Good suggestion, though we are all very slightly different inside and out, but a tracheotomy should be simple enough, we all have our trachea in the same spot! You have hit on a fundamental issue though, people are being incentivised by abstract targets that can be measured. It's a lot more difficult (effort wise) to measure the level of care being administered, so the staff get caught up in the bureaucracy and not the real job of looking after people.Grow Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06124664582808802393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-61887638947602942682009-03-18T08:35:00.000+00:002009-03-18T08:35:00.000+00:00LA Liz - All operations are complex, any number of...LA Liz - All operations are complex, any number of things can go wrong, so the surgeons really need to know what they're doing before they're let loose on the general public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-38822167340422614892009-03-18T05:06:00.000+00:002009-03-18T05:06:00.000+00:00I believe the statistics. Sometimes I think our c...I believe the statistics. Sometimes I think our culture believes that doctors are infallible because of all that schooling. But just like anything, if you don't practice doing certain operations frequently, you forget how to do something. <BR/><BR/>Here's to all of us staying healthy enough to avoid the ER!Liz Dwyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794296990587989214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-62405345450002323062009-03-17T12:20:00.000+00:002009-03-17T12:20:00.000+00:00Liz - It's an amazing figure, isn't it? Not sure o...Liz - It's an amazing figure, isn't it? Not sure of the source, the article doesn't quote one. Just try not to end up under a car and having to be rushed to hospital!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-40473367168596674702009-03-17T11:48:00.000+00:002009-03-17T11:48:00.000+00:001 in 300? Considering the number of ops, that's qu...1 in 300? Considering the number of ops, that's quite a high likelihood, isn't it? No wonder I've always been scared of hospitals. <BR/><BR/>My verifier is 'undercar'. I suppose if you had been undercar, there wouldn't be much the surgeons could do to make you worse.Liz Hindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646532093872561703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-894545176551917442009-03-16T22:27:00.000+00:002009-03-16T22:27:00.000+00:00Baino - This is the Chief Medical Officer talking,...Baino - This is the Chief Medical Officer talking, so I guess he must be right! I've certainly never seen any of those Aussie-type dummies before. Sure, some human errors are inevitable, but using dummies would reduce them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-15182255044884170022009-03-16T20:34:00.000+00:002009-03-16T20:34:00.000+00:00I'd be very surprised if UK doctors don't use dumm...I'd be very surprised if UK doctors don't use dummies . . we do! And cadavers so they get the practice without the risk. It doesn't stop the odd 'accident' though. Let's face it, human error is just that and with the extremely long hours that public hospital doctors and surgeons work it's a wonder they can stand up at the end of a shift. Here's a sample of what Aussie doctors are 'practising' on:<BR/>http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/07/medical_manikins_freak_us_out-2.htmlBainohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156193098088048637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-24209788152191482192009-03-16T20:00:00.000+00:002009-03-16T20:00:00.000+00:00www - My God, that stitching must have been incomp...www - My God, that stitching must have been incompetent to burst open like that. But very lucky they dealt with the peritonitis. There are far too many horror stories for my liking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-46023198743158592362009-03-16T17:54:00.000+00:002009-03-16T17:54:00.000+00:00I'll add to the horror story collection, Nick, I h...I'll add to the horror story collection, Nick, I had an emergency appendectomy (very, very lucky as peritonitis had set in) and friends were taking me home a week later, got me dressed, I was still very weak and upon standing, my whole abdominal incision burst open and I had to be wheeled once more into emergency and re-stitched. <BR/>I must have 9 lives. It was horrible.<BR/>Like you, I hate hospitals and have zero confidence.<BR/>XO<BR/>WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-52743293374910441632009-03-16T16:33:00.000+00:002009-03-16T16:33:00.000+00:00Caro - Good idea, if I need any surgery, I'll ask ...Caro - Good idea, if I need any surgery, I'll ask Jenny to have a go. At least she would care deeply about the patient. Indeed, isn't it a no-brainer to try on a few dummies first?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-82689929217449053202009-03-16T16:12:00.000+00:002009-03-16T16:12:00.000+00:00Ouch. At that rate you'd nearly be better off wat...Ouch. At that rate you'd nearly be better off watching the entire twelve series of ER again and carrying out any necessary surgery yourself in front of the mirror.<BR/><BR/>Seriously though, it seems a no-brainer to practise on dummies rather than real live humans...Carohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10316053852167258598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-9209766402108746132009-03-16T16:11:00.000+00:002009-03-16T16:11:00.000+00:00Conor, sorry to hear what happened to you. But doe...Conor, sorry to hear what happened to you. But doesn't that just prove my point? At least they spotted the internal bleeding, sometimes they don't even notice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-64125222366688596482009-03-16T16:01:00.000+00:002009-03-16T16:01:00.000+00:001 in 300? Really? Good grief... mind you the one e...1 in 300? Really? Good grief... mind you the one experience I've had with an operation turned out to be a disaster which had me being wheeled back in an hour later for emergency repairs as I was bleeding internally...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com