tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post5129995539548909043..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Pigeon holednickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-66586794570348982202012-10-20T11:27:46.806+01:002012-10-20T11:27:46.806+01:00Jay: Glad to hear you like being known as eccentri...Jay: Glad to hear you like being known as eccentric!<br /><br />I'd forgotten about Patrick Moore. Indeed, a great English eccentric who revelled in the fact.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-39381487149011096002012-10-19T23:31:53.539+01:002012-10-19T23:31:53.539+01:00Pigeon holing is almost always a bad thing, in my ...Pigeon holing is almost always a bad thing, in my opinion, but as to eccentricity, OH and I are proud to be called (by some) eccentric. <br /><br />He is more successful at it than I am, but I think it's a state to be envied and encouraged. Three cheers for individuality!!<br /><br />I've always thought of Patrick Moore, the astronomer, as one of our greatest English eccentrics, Jay at The Depp Effecthttp://www.thedeppeffect.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-1844101982623234522012-10-18T08:13:45.188+01:002012-10-18T08:13:45.188+01:00Jenny: I think you're right, people are gettin...Jenny: I think you're right, people are getting more conventional. Maybe the recession is making people a bit more cautious and afraid of being too different.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-83825985383806963862012-10-17T22:37:44.505+01:002012-10-17T22:37:44.505+01:00I think people are becoming extraordinarily conven...I think people are becoming extraordinarily conventional, I've been noticing it for a while now. Maybe that's just another version of what you are saying in this post!Jenny Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16881781466502273314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-33127559968959164162012-10-16T12:06:24.535+01:002012-10-16T12:06:24.535+01:00Kylie: I seem to remember you describing me once a...Kylie: I seem to remember you describing me once as a mild eccentric. As opposed perhaps to a wild eccentric. Or a totally rabid eccentric.<br /><br />No, I wouldn't say you were eccentric. But I'll call you that if you quite like it....Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-9381656223901228712012-10-16T11:27:40.690+01:002012-10-16T11:27:40.690+01:00dunno if i qualify as eccentric but i quite like t...dunno if i qualify as eccentric but i quite like the descriptionkyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-28077114848528842592012-10-15T08:02:21.478+01:002012-10-15T08:02:21.478+01:00Bijoux: I don't think eccentrics necessarily w...Bijoux: I don't think eccentrics necessarily want to stand out, I imagine some are embarrassed by their oddities and try to keep them hidden.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-53137758438629272742012-10-15T08:00:08.209+01:002012-10-15T08:00:08.209+01:00Monk: I do worry too much about what other people ...Monk: I do worry too much about what other people think. Even though I try not to.<br /><br />Agent: Oh, I think you misunderstand. I'm not criticising psychologists and mental health pros, I'm criticising the person who thought eccentricities could simply be reduced to mental disorders. I'm all in favour of therapy and sorting out psychological problems that are disrupting your life.<br /><br />I totally agree that people who're just a bit quirky and unusual don't need to consult a therapist, unless to get the reassurance you mention. And I certainly didn't mean that therapists go round pigeon-holing everybody with some mental disorder. Clearly I didn't express myself very well.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-11537406914531788002012-10-15T01:54:11.486+01:002012-10-15T01:54:11.486+01:00I always thought true eccentrics were sort of prou...I always thought true eccentrics were sort of proud of their status? If you are purposely doing something to stand out, you probably want to be noticed.Bijouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05788630004051883635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-3106969309288440522012-10-14T23:42:09.474+01:002012-10-14T23:42:09.474+01:00The idea that psychologists are quick to "pi...The idea that psychologists are quick to "pigeon-hole" eccentrics into disorders is, to this psychologist, offensive. Firstly, true hoarders do indeed have a mental illness. Recluses are not always agoraphobic, but often have some form of mental illness as well. And social clods? Well, some have personality disorders, some have Asperger's, some are just unskilled. But just because you don't like the idea of people being appropriately diagnosed, doesn't mean it's wrong. The question is, do they make their own lives, or the lives of every one around them, miserable because of the disorder and can they be treated to allow them to live happier lives That's all treatment is about, after all. <br /><br />The people you actually identify as eccentric are all <i>performers</i>. Their eccentricities are largely irrelevant. And for all the people who are not mentally ill but just a little quirky, I don't know a single therapist who would devise a "suitable course of treatment" for that. In fact, most therapists spend a good deal of time reassuring people that the things that make them unique are to be celebrated. <br /><br />Seems to me, you are doing a little "pigeon-holing" yourself by dealing in stereotypes about mental health professionals.Secret Agent Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564690116156754219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-12965986041539952012-10-14T23:22:05.572+01:002012-10-14T23:22:05.572+01:00Nick,
Have you not yet carved out that space for y...Nick,<br />Have you not yet carved out that space for yourself? You seem to worry a lot about what other people think. It sometimes take courage to be our true selves.Cheerful Monkhttp://cheerfulmonk.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-28818521482426020702012-10-14T22:45:36.502+01:002012-10-14T22:45:36.502+01:00www: We all need space to express ourselves proper...www: We all need space to express ourselves properly and find out who we really are, as opposed to what other people expect us to be.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-71075180648155496892012-10-14T22:09:33.124+01:002012-10-14T22:09:33.124+01:00The homogenization of our society is a crime. Ever...The homogenization of our society is a crime. Everyone needs a slot.<br /><br />Not.<br /><br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-65226326526262317812012-10-14T20:25:29.263+01:002012-10-14T20:25:29.263+01:00Paul: Indeed, one sad consequence of the Jimmy Sav...Paul: Indeed, one sad consequence of the Jimmy Savile revelations is that anyone resembling an eccentric may now be seen as a potential sex abuser.<br /><br />John: You're right, people are more suspicious than they used to be and less likely to give people the benefit of the doubt.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-58894999635092960812012-10-14T19:53:27.706+01:002012-10-14T19:53:27.706+01:00strike that last comment
on reflection I think I m...strike that last comment<br />on reflection I think I mean people are ore suspicious <br />hey hoJohn Going Gentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958171262765033946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-4055542953887487352012-10-14T19:50:27.903+01:002012-10-14T19:50:27.903+01:00perhaps my friend , people today are just less tol...perhaps my friend , people today are just less tolerant than they used to beJohn Going Gentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958171262765033946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-72249373343565353482012-10-14T19:43:25.148+01:002012-10-14T19:43:25.148+01:00I don't like the way eccentricity is now more ...I don't like the way eccentricity is now more likely to be pigeon-holed in the way you describe.<br />Hurrah for eccentricity.<br />And more sinister - one of the lesser consequences of paedophile Jimmy Savile's legacy is that eccentrics - especially older men - may now be viewed less tolerantly than before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com