tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post949845791901734624..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Losing the plotnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-43078454085398133382011-01-12T13:52:38.541+00:002011-01-12T13:52:38.541+00:00LA Liz - Indeed, all the classic plot twists are w...LA Liz - Indeed, all the classic plot twists are wheeled out again and again. Just how long can they get away with reanimated corpses?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-50172162633227148042011-01-12T08:03:24.764+00:002011-01-12T08:03:24.764+00:00Sounds like a fantastic soap-opera-ish plot line t...Sounds like a fantastic soap-opera-ish plot line to me. What would TV be without baby stealing, mysterious twins suddenly appearing and people that you swore were dead coming back from the dead. I might have to start watching this if I can find it here in LA. ;)Liz Dwyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794296990587989214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-47138189940835374062011-01-11T21:00:23.205+00:002011-01-11T21:00:23.205+00:00Liz - Okay, we'll agree to disagree!Liz - Okay, we'll agree to disagree!Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-60588960403546840702011-01-11T18:23:30.099+00:002011-01-11T18:23:30.099+00:00I think we'll have to agree to disagree on thi...I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this, nick. If the storyline involved Welsh people, women, stay-at-home mums, Archers fans - all of which I am - it would be fine; some things just - oh, no.Liz Hindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646532093872561703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-18716852441205846752011-01-11T07:46:40.772+00:002011-01-11T07:46:40.772+00:00Megan - Really, that bad, huh? I don't know wh...Megan - Really, that bad, huh? I don't know whether security is that tight at UK hospitals but certainly there have been cases of unwanted visitors and intruders endangering patients.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-87724318468377911242011-01-11T05:51:10.307+00:002011-01-11T05:51:10.307+00:00Somewhat on the point - You should see the securit...Somewhat on the point - You should see the security they have in maternity wards these days. It's like entering lock-down.Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09387041422819664987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-68823294648009851212011-01-10T19:19:31.867+00:002011-01-10T19:19:31.867+00:00Liz - I'm sure you're right that a cot dea...Liz - I'm sure you're right that a cot death is utterly traumatic to the unlucky parents. But sensitivity to grieving parents is the job of a counselling service, not TV drama. Nobody complains about the dozens of murders that feature in crime dramas.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-77578965190919244042011-01-10T18:17:00.980+00:002011-01-10T18:17:00.980+00:00I don't watch EE but have heard of the plot. Y...I don't watch EE but have heard of the plot. Yes, it's fiction but the trouble is that cot death is unimaginably dreadful. The inexplicable death of your tiny baby? Too horrendous to contemplate. <br />So maybe the snatching was a step too far.Liz Hindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646532093872561703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-87565128997341687782011-01-10T07:49:20.752+00:002011-01-10T07:49:20.752+00:00Tattytiara - Agreed, people are so ready to be &qu...Tattytiara - Agreed, people are so ready to be "offended" over just about anything. Stopping something that hurts sounds fair enough in principle, but again, people can be hurt by all sorts of fictional scenarios. Programme-makers would have their job cut out to avoid hurting anyone. And nobody's forced to keep watching. The off switch is a few feet away.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-45872935859497361902011-01-10T02:53:31.804+00:002011-01-10T02:53:31.804+00:00I definitely think the word "offended" i...I definitely think the word "offended" is yielded too often as a weapon and afforded too much respect. When it comes to parents who have lost kids, though, I can completely appreciate their reacting less than rationally to a piece of fiction. I can't imagine seeing the world through their eyes and I don't want to. If something hurts them I want it to stop.tattytiarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18408220720084181008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-18559574599643601512011-01-09T21:16:53.516+00:002011-01-09T21:16:53.516+00:00Baino - Well said, if that happened in your own st...Baino - Well said, if that happened in your own street you'd be up and away. Though mind you, the most extraordinary things happen in the average street these days.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-52032851470400998772011-01-09T19:08:17.667+00:002011-01-09T19:08:17.667+00:00Er Google "woman steals baby" and it'...Er Google "woman steals baby" and it's a totally plausible plot line although I haven't watched Eastenders for years, I'd be more up in arms if I was a Cockney Londoner! I do hate how oversensitive minorities get their knickers in such a twist. Of course it's fiction, if shit like that happened in your street you'd move. It's like Neighbours, God who'd want to live in Ramsey Street!Bainohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156193098088048637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-74269289903102860542011-01-09T16:44:42.305+00:002011-01-09T16:44:42.305+00:00Macy - I know, I never watch Eastenders either but...Macy - I know, I never watch Eastenders either but here I am posting about it. Well said, why don't the offended 9000 just take a deep breath and find something better to do with their time?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-57477503068393272152011-01-09T13:07:43.763+00:002011-01-09T13:07:43.763+00:00Wow , what price bad publicity hey? Here I am nev...Wow , what price bad publicity hey? Here I am never having watched Eastenders, and now I'm commenting on one of its plotlines???<br /><br />Glad someone else is as mystified by the fuss as I was. 9,000 people don't think the plot is realistic??<br />So what?<br />Do I now think a bereaved mother would snatch another child? No.<br />Do I think at least 9000 people should grow up? Yes.Macyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16117141586263456823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-16244472596275086892011-01-09T11:55:17.939+00:002011-01-09T11:55:17.939+00:00Myra - It seems they prefer a big lather of righte...Myra - It seems they prefer a big lather of righteous indignation to a bit of common sense.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-3505774781697615852011-01-09T07:46:21.863+00:002011-01-09T07:46:21.863+00:00Why don't they just change the channel?Why don't they just change the channel?nursemyrahttp://nursemyra.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-22273380872999252782011-01-09T07:19:11.840+00:002011-01-09T07:19:11.840+00:00Secret Agent - Exactly, they play around with real...Secret Agent - Exactly, they play around with reality rather than faithfully reflecting it. To complain that it isn't real enough is wilfully missing the point.<br /><br />Kylie - Works of fiction will always be offensive to someone. But if you removed everything that might be offensive, either you'd end up with a children's story or a load of blank pages. You'd be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-39301931988320798092011-01-09T02:17:51.960+00:002011-01-09T02:17:51.960+00:00i agree that it is fiction and should be viewed as...i agree that it is fiction and should be viewed as such but i also know that some works of fiction can be deeply offensive and maybe more thought should have gone into the story.<br />now that it has started, though, it is just piss weak to change the story on the basis of complaints.<br />what about artistic integrity??kyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-88581552405843692732011-01-08T23:57:15.923+00:002011-01-08T23:57:15.923+00:00Soaps are meant to be overly dramatic and not nece...Soaps are meant to be overly dramatic and not necessarily reflective of real life. I always thought people watched them for just that sort of escapism.secret agent womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03763879283931347382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-11190780452203445492011-01-08T23:41:05.533+00:002011-01-08T23:41:05.533+00:00Scarlet - Yes, I read about Samantha Womack being ...Scarlet - Yes, I read about Samantha Womack being screamed at in the street. People who can't tell the difference between the actress and the TV character are seriously weird.<br /><br />Grannymar - The sudden death of a child is always devastating, as you say not only to the parents but the whole family. I'm sure the programme-makers fully accept that.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-69962947132575875982011-01-08T20:08:33.166+00:002011-01-08T20:08:33.166+00:00I have no television, but it is amazing how much I...I have no television, but it is amazing how much I have heard over the airwaves and on-line about this story line. It is not one I am happy with, but then I lost a three month old niece to Sudden Death Syndrome many years ago. I have never forgotten how I felt and I was only an aunt and not the mother.Grannymarhttp://grannymar.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-55412024968334285592011-01-08T17:44:21.900+00:002011-01-08T17:44:21.900+00:00IT'S ALL TRUE, I TELL YOU!!!
Isn't it?
Sx
...IT'S ALL TRUE, I TELL YOU!!!<br />Isn't it?<br />Sx<br /><br />The poor actress who plays Ronnie has been taunted in the street whilst she was with her real children. She was screamed at and called a murdering cow [?]. I think this is much worse than the complaints.Ms Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449626572478125088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-54262180374798606582011-01-08T17:20:31.890+00:002011-01-08T17:20:31.890+00:00W3 - Indeed, matters of supreme national importanc...W3 - Indeed, matters of supreme national importance, I don't think. Have they really got nothing better to do than moan about an "unrealistic" TV character?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-74835087724052814912011-01-08T17:15:41.168+00:002011-01-08T17:15:41.168+00:00Roses - I guess they think they'll have an imp...Roses - I guess they think they'll have an impact in this case (and they have, judging by the BBC's reaction), whereas they're more cynical about politicians taking any notice of them.<br /><br />Val - That's a great analysis of the programme, that the dialogue is completely interchangeable. Applies to a few other programmes as well.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-36620314247187472932011-01-08T16:35:21.199+00:002011-01-08T16:35:21.199+00:00Yes, I see these matters of supreme national impor...Yes, I see these matters of supreme national importance being debated on FB by the younger of my rellies and can only mumble a series of WTFs to myself.<br />I don't watch TV and the last thing I'd ever watch would be a soap so it all seems to very very Fahrenheit 451 to me where the distinction between reality and fantasy is so blurred.<br />I find it quite frightening to be honest. <br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.com