tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post8620464584767195928..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Leaving donickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-64971689420050900202016-06-29T08:41:56.649+01:002016-06-29T08:41:56.649+01:00www: There are certainly a lot of very negative an...www: There are certainly a lot of very negative and destructive things going on right now. As far as the UK goes, my immediate hopes are that the government finds a way of blocking the referendum result and the Labour Party gets a new leader who can provide an effective opposition and win back all those lost Labour votes.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-37019276748823374042016-06-29T03:15:48.614+01:002016-06-29T03:15:48.614+01:00I believe as I see catastrophe after catastrophe u...I believe as I see catastrophe after catastrophe unfold, not least Brexit, followed by Drumpf, followed by tar sands, et al, that we truly are ringing a death knell. I can't see any kind of recovery to stability. Can you? Our pols are puppets only. Our climate is in a death spiral. I kind of envy people who pray to their ghost in the sky and believe in a golden afterlife.<br /><br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-62094047050483714242016-06-28T21:29:54.967+01:002016-06-28T21:29:54.967+01:00Jenny: Absolutely, promises they can't fulfill...Jenny: Absolutely, promises they can't fulfill. A lot of Leave voters are already feeling grotesquely cheated as it emerges that promise after promise is either complete bollocks or very unlikely to be honoured. Well, good luck to them in what are going to be horribly complicated and frustrating negotiations. That is, if parliament hasn't put a stop to the whole crazy adventure first.<br /><br />Farage is making a prize fool of himself. He can't take part in the actual negotiations, so instead he's flouncing about, abusing everyone - almost like a bad loser than a delighted winner.<br /><br />I think the referendum was a kind of mob rule, which the Leave mob happened to win. But parliament has the power to reject the verdict if they think that's appropriate.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-482003771157108472016-06-28T21:03:22.238+01:002016-06-28T21:03:22.238+01:00And as far as Nigel Farage is concerned, he is jus...And as far as Nigel Farage is concerned, he is just a troll who loves to be the centre of attention. The more outraged, the more delighted, like an unpleasant ten year old. The people I can't forgive are the intelligent ones, Gove and Johnson, who were nakedly cynical. I really do feel they should be brought to account, they have made us the laughing stock of the world and done so much damage not only to the Brits but to our neighbours as well. Makes me wish that mob rule wasn't so politically uncorrect. Jenny Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16881781466502273314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-27727564019281819392016-06-28T21:00:09.420+01:002016-06-28T21:00:09.420+01:00I was in a state of total shock when I found out. ...I was in a state of total shock when I found out. I don't even remember quite what I did. And I felt quite odd for a couple of days afterwards every time I thought of the enormity of it. And towering rage at these awful people who conned the baffled and elderly with cruel promises they couldn't fulfil. And now, they'll be rewarded with top political jobs. <br />Words fail me, really. I have tried to laugh about it but my God....Jenny Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16881781466502273314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-12169255346713096112016-06-28T19:33:40.409+01:002016-06-28T19:33:40.409+01:00Tammy: Yes, looking at everything as a detached so...Tammy: Yes, looking at everything as a detached sociologist is probably the best course to take. UK and US politics is getting so fraught that getting too involved is guaranteed to raise our blood pressure! Parliament has the final say over the referendum result and who knows, they may eventually decide leaving the EU would just be too damaging to put into effect.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-32397258478602487202016-06-28T19:14:14.408+01:002016-06-28T19:14:14.408+01:00just now getting back here.
no A/C in my apt for a...just now getting back here.<br />no A/C in my apt for a few days.<br />I too applaud the dems for their sit in nick.<br />but ... it was pointless really.<br />too little too late.<br />this country is so gun crazy that it will NEVER find a solution.<br />and the NRA lovers are solid.<br />the whole mess is kind of like your leave voters chasing pie in the sky as you put it. <br />i'm trying to look at the whole world now as a detached sociologist!<br />better for my blood pressure!tammy jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16568939993585811311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-33267023045736062662016-06-28T16:03:43.309+01:002016-06-28T16:03:43.309+01:00Scarlet: I know. Apart from all the pompous bluste...Scarlet: I know. Apart from all the pompous bluster, suggesting no other MEP has had a proper job is absurd. And how about him? Is stockbroking a proper job or just a money-shuffling racket?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-81917203849931117762016-06-28T15:48:41.254+01:002016-06-28T15:48:41.254+01:00Embarrassed to be British after watching Nigel Far...Embarrassed to be British after watching Nigel Farage speak in the European Parliament this morning.<br />SxMs Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449626572478125088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-91066107143081191482016-06-28T14:18:05.585+01:002016-06-28T14:18:05.585+01:00Agent: It's a rich irony that Farage endlessly...Agent: It's a rich irony that Farage endlessly mocks and derides the EU, but he's been an MEP for 17 years, happily picking up a fat salary and expenses.<br /><br />I agree the Democrats were right to have a sit-in in the House of Representatives. Since the Republicans resist any tighter gun control, while there are tragic shootings virtually every day, what other action is left to them?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-37013073882990641012016-06-28T13:25:38.502+01:002016-06-28T13:25:38.502+01:00I was listening to a clip of Farage mocking the EU...I was listening to a clip of Farage mocking the EU parliament and thought how much like Trump he sounds. They are both tapping into anger and the misplaced nostalgia for a time of isolationist perfection that never really existed. It saddens and scares me. <br /><br />Incidentally, I think the Democrats who held a sit-in are on the right track. It wasn't about keeping poor Republicans from vacationing - the House and Senate are scheduled for more days off than ever before this year - but about attempting to force the issue of the gun crisis in this country. Secret Agent Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564690116156754219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-18625572150914603492016-06-28T07:28:48.450+01:002016-06-28T07:28:48.450+01:00Thanks for the link, Jean. I'll have a proper ...Thanks for the link, Jean. I'll have a proper look at it later on.<br /><br />Bijoux: Absolutely. People are pissed off with remote, elitist, self-serving politicians, but instead of trying to change them for the better, they reject them all in favour of some eccentric, unpredictable, half-baked outsider like Donald Trump or Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage. The future looks pretty scary when people like that are taken seriously.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-56299913331470043912016-06-28T05:04:29.330+01:002016-06-28T05:04:29.330+01:00Do you think it's similar to what's going ...Do you think it's similar to what's going on in the States, where people are tired of the 'establishment'?Bijouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05788630004051883635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-49389949531634121772016-06-28T03:48:26.613+01:002016-06-28T03:48:26.613+01:00According to this Washington Post article, we ain&...According to this <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/27/the-losers-have-revolted-and-brexit-is-only-the-beginning/?wpisrc=nl_evening&wpmm=1" rel="nofollow">Washington Post article</a>, we ain't seen nothing yet. CheerfulMonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934008738777906970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-34753168755880090162016-06-26T18:53:02.246+01:002016-06-26T18:53:02.246+01:00Smitonius: We don't hear much from her, do we?...Smitonius: We don't hear much from her, do we? She's probably as confused as the rest of us about what the hell happens next, as the Leavers seem not to have done any detailed planning for a Leave vote. She probably just thinks "Oh God, he'll still be gallivanting around and me and the kids will never see him."Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-28600454663801561562016-06-26T18:03:04.046+01:002016-06-26T18:03:04.046+01:00I can't help wondering what Mrs. Farage's ...I can't help wondering what Mrs. Farage's thoughts are on all this .<br />Mine are unprintable ... <br /> SmitoniusAndSonatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11210817141287881808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-48523297428400482092016-06-26T06:34:22.893+01:002016-06-26T06:34:22.893+01:00Jean: He's right. The EU have done a lot for o...Jean: He's right. The EU have done a lot for ordinary people, but they've had little effect on basic problems like unemployment, unaffordable housing etc. But all the Leave voters who think quitting the EU will magically solve those problems are chasing pie in the sky. And what benefits they do get from the EU will suddenly disappear.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-15824762229121240132016-06-26T06:21:15.738+01:002016-06-26T06:21:15.738+01:00Helen: Unfortunately the Conservative government w...Helen: Unfortunately the Conservative government was voted back into power at the last general election, despite its glaring failure to help all those struggling with the sort of problems you mention. And yes, the EU hasn't provided much help either. There hasn't been the huge revolt against austerity that other countries have seen.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-36305513805462960732016-06-26T05:46:15.182+01:002016-06-26T05:46:15.182+01:00The New York Times has an interesting article abou...The New York Times has an interesting article about <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/25/world/europe/brexit-eu-politics.html?partner=rss&emc=rss" rel="nofollow">populist anger on both sides of the Atlantic</a>. Among other things it says,<br /><br /><em><br />Donald Tusk, one of the European Union’s top leaders, has started to talk about the risks facing the political establishment. At a speech last month before Europe’s coalition of center-right political parties, Mr. Tusk cautioned his fellow political elites.<br /><br />“Obsessed with the idea of instant and total integration, we failed to notice that ordinary people, the citizens of Europe, do not share our euro-enthusiasm,” said Mr. Tusk, the president of the European Council, which comprises the heads of state of all the 28 member states in the bloc. “Disillusioned with great visions of the future, they demand that we cope with the present reality better than we have been doing until now.”</em>CheerfulMonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934008738777906970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-16610533284397344332016-06-26T02:08:05.498+01:002016-06-26T02:08:05.498+01:00One of the reasons we moved to Costa Rica - apart ...One of the reasons we moved to Costa Rica - apart from the immediate impulsion of medical malpractice in France - was the worry about where the EU was going.<br />A free trade area was one thing; but the idea that the EU would form a counter block to the U.S. hegemony had clearly gone by the board. Later events have borne out our fears...who in their right mind would start tweaking Putin's tail as the EU have in the Ukraine?<br />I quite agree - the current brand of U.K. politicians are beneath contempt - but at least people can get rid of them if they can move from protest into action: the EU you are stuck with.<br />I was visiting mother in England just before the referendum and people were talking about the way in which they would vote: for the family where there is no way in which their kids can take on the debt of university education the EU has done nothing for them...nor for those who seek a properly paid full time job with pension. Yes, capitalism...but the EU has done nothing to restrain it in the U.K.<br />helen devriesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-2151021748769306752016-06-25T22:52:50.825+01:002016-06-25T22:52:50.825+01:00Tammy: I rather applaud the Democrats' protest...Tammy: I rather applaud the Democrats' protest in the House of Representatives, as attempts to tighten gun control by normal methods have got nowhere. And tighter controls are certainly necessary judging by the daily carnage all over the States. I was especially horrified by the massacre at the Pulse Nightclub.<br /><br />By the way, I visited the House of Representatives last year when I was in Washington DC. Not quite as impressive as I imagined!nickhttp://nickhereandnow.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-42559202207077624192016-06-25T22:00:25.841+01:002016-06-25T22:00:25.841+01:00the root of all evil...
self serving politicians.
...the root of all evil...<br />self serving politicians.<br />i'm sorry to know that my beloved UK is full of them as well.<br />though not in the same vein as leaving or staying...<br />it makes me think of our own utterly useless and ridiculous "leaders" who recently sat down in the floor... fighting with the ones who wanted to take their normal vacation break...<br />before deciding on banning assault weapons and gun legislation. losers. all of them.<br />no wait. the REAL losers are we the people.tammy jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16568939993585811311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-13411789071721624522016-06-25T21:11:45.627+01:002016-06-25T21:11:45.627+01:00Mia: I would have thought anyone who had lived in ...Mia: I would have thought anyone who had lived in France for 40 years would be hesitant to give any opinion at all about a country he hasn't lived in for so long and whose culture he will be totally out of touch with. Likewise I would never presume to give an opinion about France or Germany as their culture is a mystery to me.<br /><br />Joanne: There is so much opposition to the referendum result from the defeated 48% that I think the government is discreetly looking for a way to ignore it.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-51280596416076158362016-06-25T19:25:43.777+01:002016-06-25T19:25:43.777+01:00There's little I can add, except the glimmer o...There's little I can add, except the glimmer of enough remorse for Parliament to actually not push the button.Joanne Noragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601010208310707750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-83978593072157163782016-06-25T19:15:24.049+01:002016-06-25T19:15:24.049+01:00The guy living in France since the seventies is Mi...The guy living in France since the seventies is Mister know all always having HIS WONDERFUL OPINIONS, right winged as right winged you can be . When I commented on his blog asking why he lives in France for more than 40 years in a nice home with Swimmingpool etc. He kicked me out. I think Ursula shared the same problem .<br />Mia MoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com