tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post8373459885080363153..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Haloes and holinessnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-38243581722590350212018-09-17T13:28:30.638+01:002018-09-17T13:28:30.638+01:00Agent: I think you misunderstood what I was saying...Agent: I think you misunderstood what I was saying, or maybe I was expressing myself badly. I wasn't generalising about all women, I was only saying that I tend to overlook their negative qualities - and those were just a few examples of what I glossed over. Of course ALL women don't talk that way about other women. What an alarming possibility!nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-27641119650909544062018-09-17T11:25:27.285+01:002018-09-17T11:25:27.285+01:00Actually, it a question, not a statement about how...Actually, it a question, not a statement about how you are generalizing (that's why I included a question mark). I'm wondering why the broad perception that you have to shut out all that about women. I don't even think all women talk that way about other women. That sure isn't true in the women I have as friends.Secret Agent Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564690116156754219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-70994201615616834202018-09-17T08:33:13.060+01:002018-09-17T08:33:13.060+01:00Agent: That's a bit harsh. To say I don't ...Agent: That's a bit harsh. To say I don't think much of women is ridiculous. It's men I don't think much of (with some honourable exceptions of course). Personally I don't see those attitudes in women very much, it's what women themselves say about other women. I've even heard feminist friends complaining about the attitude of other feminists.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-85435174677240744962018-09-16T23:33:05.435+01:002018-09-16T23:33:05.435+01:00"the bitchiness, the self-doubt, the competit..."the bitchiness, the self-doubt, the competitiveness, the begrudgery." If you feel like you're shutting this out in all women, maybe you don't really idealize women or even think much of us at all? Seems like such a sweeping negative view of what must be overlooked in women.<br /><br />I don't think I tend to be an idealizer. I think people are flawed but often mostly good. Secret Agent Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564690116156754219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-68775780362625008642018-09-14T12:30:49.424+01:002018-09-14T12:30:49.424+01:00Chloe: I agree.Chloe: I agree.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-28960077795912055752018-09-14T12:21:28.392+01:002018-09-14T12:21:28.392+01:00I answered your answer to Greta. I'm quite eng...I answered your answer to Greta. I'm quite engaged that's true. I think everyone can do something even on a small level , no need to have special leaders to show the way. chloehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12896471907846731816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-28268143167435171102018-09-14T08:46:16.898+01:002018-09-14T08:46:16.898+01:00Joared: Celebrity worship is increasing in the UK ...Joared: Celebrity worship is increasing in the UK as well. People with absolutely no claim to fame, people who're totally talentless and gormless, attract wild adulation. Outrageous off-the-cuff remarks are valued more than thoughtful, considerate ones. As you say, we all pull our pants on one leg at a time, nobody is superhuman. And yes, most of the celebrities themselves are sick of the claustrophobic celeb-worship, sick of the paparazzi, sick of being pointed out on the street, and just want to be treated like A N Other.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-54032330200845384802018-09-14T08:29:50.891+01:002018-09-14T08:29:50.891+01:00Scarlet: Well said. There are plenty of arenas els...Scarlet: Well said. There are plenty of arenas elsewhere for virtuous political debate.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-34702529944414139642018-09-14T08:28:04.365+01:002018-09-14T08:28:04.365+01:00This idealization and failure to view others reali...This idealization and failure to view others realistically is an important topic in today's world. That's how we in the U.S. ended up with who we have leading our government. Seems much more prevalent today than fifty years ago, with less selectivity. I think the idealism of ideas and how we view other people does tend to lessen as we get older. Perhaps how soon that happens in our lives depends partially on what experiences we have from the time we are children. I can't recall ever idealizing anyone, so have found the U.S. 's increasingly celebrity-worshiping culture rather unfortunate, to say the least. I may appreciate and admire certain aspects of a person's skills, talents, personality, behavior, appearance, but the bottom line is they all pull their pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us, so what's the big deal? Some of them are jerks or have jerky moments just like us. A few of them with whom I've interacted I've found to be down-to-earth and mostly wanting to be protected from celebrity worshipers -- not wanting them as their new best friends, but walking the fine line to maintain that following. Joaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03155775053108104385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-12435220196912221892018-09-14T08:20:22.642+01:002018-09-14T08:20:22.642+01:00Chloe: I assume that you on the other hand are ful...Chloe: I assume that you on the other hand are fully engaged fighting global poverty, reversing climate change and ending male supremacy.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-68942019250143400372018-09-14T08:19:05.450+01:002018-09-14T08:19:05.450+01:00This is a personal blog, it's not effing Quest...This is a personal blog, it's not effing Question Time.<br />SxMs Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449626572478125088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-76852546819129783872018-09-14T08:14:41.266+01:002018-09-14T08:14:41.266+01:00Well well so just continue with smart phone freaks...Well well so just continue with smart phone freaks, screaming chidren, persons making noise, high heels and and and. Fills a daytime. chloehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12896471907846731816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-46124251007110730642018-09-14T07:46:26.366+01:002018-09-14T07:46:26.366+01:00Greta: I'm very aware of the important things,...Greta: I'm very aware of the important things, and so are my blogmates. They're discussed exhaustively in the mainstream media. Perhaps you should be reading the Guardian and not my blog.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-84724931305746217172018-09-13T20:03:49.569+01:002018-09-13T20:03:49.569+01:00I do not criticise I'm normally a silent reade...I do not criticise I'm normally a silent reader , but suddenly I found that your subjects are always turning around the same ideas. It's a statement nothing more. If you're touchy to criticism well your blog seems to be public, so sometimes we cannot agree. <br />GretaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-61995541068217462222018-09-13T19:54:40.204+01:002018-09-13T19:54:40.204+01:00Greta: Why bother to comment if all you want to do...Greta: Why bother to comment if all you want to do is criticise me?nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-49684432560691682282018-09-13T19:40:09.608+01:002018-09-13T19:40:09.608+01:00Your subjects start to be a bit boring . You give ...Your subjects start to be a bit boring . You give a list of thoughts and then wait for comments. Is there something interesting to know if you idealise John Lennon, Madonna or who ever. These are subjects for Sun readers.Sorry I think there are a lot of important things going on in our troubled world. <br />GretaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-38775231894754088782018-09-12T21:56:08.053+01:002018-09-12T21:56:08.053+01:00Tammy: Never mind, better late than never! I think...Tammy: Never mind, better late than never! I think it's lovely that you still keep your husband on a pedestal, in the sense that you always think of him positively. Yes, I do like my posts to be thought-provoking!nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-35591364498607333052018-09-12T20:59:33.086+01:002018-09-12T20:59:33.086+01:00I'm having cable problems and late getting her...I'm having cable problems and late getting here as usual. I don't know why I get notice of your posts a day late! it's EMAIL not SNAIL MAIL!<br />but have enjoyed all the various comments.<br />when you fall in love at 18 and marry at 19 and are widowed at 33... you have a tendency to keep your love on that pedestal. and him being 10 years older just added to the mystique. only in the last few years of my life here in discussions with my favorite marine (my brother) have I been able to say things that I wish had been different. and even then it felt disloyal. my own personal flaw I guess! your posts always make me THINK. xoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-85095719537257401262018-09-12T17:19:10.322+01:002018-09-12T17:19:10.322+01:00Scarlet: You could be right about projection. I al...Scarlet: You could be right about projection. I always envied John Lennon his quick wit and rebelliousness.<br /><br />Aidan Turner? I dislike men with beards, they always seem a bit silly and pointless. To be honest, I find most men amazingly unattractive.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-22948611317793390132018-09-12T14:45:35.728+01:002018-09-12T14:45:35.728+01:00Is idealising a celeb, such as Lennon, just about ...Is idealising a celeb, such as Lennon, just about projecting all the 'good' traits that we'd like to have ourselves, on to someone else? I guess doing this can be self motivating? Or self destructive?!!<br />Anyhow, I'm more of a swooner than an idealiser....i.e. I swoon over Aidan Turner :-)<br />Sx Ms Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449626572478125088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-36012011019858081232018-09-12T08:13:17.138+01:002018-09-12T08:13:17.138+01:00www: Very true that the flaws are more shocking wh...www: Very true that the flaws are more shocking when it's someone especially charismatic.<br /><br />Celebrities are always flawed. Some of them hide the flaws very successfully, and the truth only comes out after death.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-66508351399750337682018-09-12T00:33:56.915+01:002018-09-12T00:33:56.915+01:00I had to think about this. I found looking back th...I had to think about this. I found looking back that the more charismatic the leader the more shocking the flaws when revealed so now I haul the old jaundiced eye out, particularly when casting it on politicians.<br /><br />Obama has the same blood on his hands as Bush did. Our Trudeau is terribly pretty but there is an inherent shallowness to his promises.<br /><br />I don't idealize celebrities, in fact the opposite. What was that old joke about going to the bathroom like everyone else? :)<br /><br />I have a few heroes and heroines based only on their actions and try and emulate them in their outlook.<br /><br />XO<br />WWW Wisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-24148015265851589772018-09-11T15:55:27.692+01:002018-09-11T15:55:27.692+01:00Kylie: I usually look for the Achilles Heel but I ...Kylie: I usually look for the Achilles Heel but I tend to look at women through rose-tinted glasses.<br /><br />Danielle: You're right, a lot less disappointment. If Jeremy Corbyn proves to be a useless Prime Minister, it will simply justify my cynicism.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-23119189467171608452018-09-11T14:52:22.965+01:002018-09-11T14:52:22.965+01:00You're probably much better off not to idealiz...You're probably much better off not to idealize people, a lot less disappointment that way. Politicians never keep all of their promises. Sometimes that's a bad thing, sometimes that's a good thing. Danielle L Zecherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01492742250595537348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-50685022703969997362018-09-11T13:17:03.293+01:002018-09-11T13:17:03.293+01:00So do you idealise or look for the Achilles?
Your...So do you idealise or look for the Achilles? <br />Your last line is fabulous writing but it directly contradicts the previous paragraph. <br /><br />I've only idealised a couple of people and only one of those has disappointed. <br /><br /><br /><br />kyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17733888108530605722noreply@blogger.com