tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post7445982684340352248..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Culture vulturesnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-70495271874291067392020-02-21T09:51:27.325+00:002020-02-21T09:51:27.325+00:00Kylie: You're right. Ill-treatment can be so i...Kylie: You're right. Ill-treatment can be so internalised that you take it as the norm and don't expect anything different.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-84021470524535215882020-02-20T23:10:06.079+00:002020-02-20T23:10:06.079+00:00I think we have to be super careful about saying &...I think we have to be super careful about saying "my friend who is disenfranchied in a relevant way doesn't see a problem"<br />People internalise the injustices they suffer and don't always have any expectation or even perception of how they should be treatedkyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-69952449695777579722020-02-20T12:19:02.442+00:002020-02-20T12:19:02.442+00:00Kylie: Very true that a well-researched and well-w...Kylie: Very true that a well-researched and well-written fiction might have more impact than the same story from its "owner".nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-36310187806681399012020-02-20T09:20:22.700+00:002020-02-20T09:20:22.700+00:00This is interesting. I have a deep dislike of cult...This is interesting. I have a deep dislike of cultural appropriation but for something that is fiction and presented as fiction, i dont think that fits into cultural appropriation. A well researched fiction, checked by someone who understands the issues at hand can create revolution in a way that may not be possible for the original "owner" of the story kyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-499868872751461862020-02-19T08:42:54.370+00:002020-02-19T08:42:54.370+00:00Joared: Interesting that your half-Mexican friend ...Joared: Interesting that your half-Mexican friend has no problems with the book or the author and is deeply affected by the hardships described. So much for the dogma about only writing from your personal experience.<br /><br />This is it, people generalise about the behaviour of refugees and migrants on the basis of a few isolated cases and demonise them all. They obviously have no conception of the misery and suffering that refugees are going through and prefer to add to their misery.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-45133947046023122502020-02-19T08:03:55.473+00:002020-02-19T08:03:55.473+00:00A friend of mine who is half Mexican, had a close ...A friend of mine who is half Mexican, had a close relationship with her full Mexican grandmother, adopted a Mexican child, is reading the book now as a selection made by others, mostly caucasians, in her book club. She and other family did not have the experience of not being U.S. citizens but my friend has great compassion for those of all nations seeking a place to live in security in peace. Living, as we do, here In Southern California near the US,-Mexico border, we are keenly aware of these people in our community, legal and otherwise, plus those seeking refuge and sanctuary here, stories in our local news of some of their lives -- very personal. The story our President presents demonizing them by selecting an isolated example as portraying there are many like that rare type is a blatant lie, but one many in the rest of our country choose to believe. My friend's reaction to the book so far is that she feels like crying after many pages when she reads of the hardships the author has imagined some have experienced. So far, she has no problem with the book or the author. I don't intend to read the book as the story just doesn't appeal to me presently. I do find all the drama surrounding the book interesting, but I don't have a dog in this fight as the saying goes. Joaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03155775053108104385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-1645123607247980472020-02-17T07:53:12.814+00:002020-02-17T07:53:12.814+00:00Linda: And nobody would have a pet, as our persona...Linda: And nobody would have a pet, as our personal experience doesn't include being a cat or a dog. And no farmyard animals, as we don't know what it's like to be a cow or a pig.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-64617733505586668982020-02-17T07:49:43.644+00:002020-02-17T07:49:43.644+00:00Agent: And no white author could ever have any bla...Agent: And no white author could ever have any black characters? Isn't that racism?nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-60303439734066609292020-02-16T21:14:07.621+00:002020-02-16T21:14:07.621+00:00To take this to its limit no male author would eve...To take this to its limit no male author would ever have any female characters at all. And vice versa. How dumb.Linda Sandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12734450335251336493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-62715355898624112242020-02-16T19:02:14.766+00:002020-02-16T19:02:14.766+00:00That's ridiculous. So should no male author ev...That's ridiculous. So should no male author ever have a female protagonist and no female author a male? Where does it end?Secret Agent Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564690116156754219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-83717263017358041962020-02-16T17:04:33.734+00:002020-02-16T17:04:33.734+00:00Mary: It makes me mad as well. I think a lot of it...Mary: It makes me mad as well. I think a lot of it is just people looking for a "cause" to give them a sense of purpose in life. Do they seriously want 95 per cent of novels taken off the shelves? Because that's what would happen if publishers bowed to their censorious principles.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-31350460409526629262020-02-16T16:03:44.103+00:002020-02-16T16:03:44.103+00:00I'm so tired of seeing this type of thing and ...I'm so tired of seeing this type of thing and seeing the words, 'cultural appropriation' for so many small things. I'm tired of it especially because this wasn't the case at all. <br /><br />A lot of authors are writing about something they made up in their heads unless of course they write an autobiography. <br /><br />So now authors can't make things up and write about them unless they have first hand experience? Wow, I guess that will really limit the kinds of books that are available. Makes me so mad.Mary Kirklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04991095291522043588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-24052168976002061012020-02-16T09:01:54.003+00:002020-02-16T09:01:54.003+00:00Linda: I'm assuming biographies wouldn't b...Linda: I'm assuming biographies wouldn't be okay because they're written by someone other than the person concerned. But the book police would be happy with autobiographies.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-72250363640038761682020-02-15T22:36:01.879+00:002020-02-15T22:36:01.879+00:00As a voracious reader, I would be appalled if the ...As a voracious reader, I would be appalled if the only books available were biographies. I like biographies but my reading tastes extend way beyond them.Linda Sandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12734450335251336493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-42161116193244628362020-02-15T13:43:32.285+00:002020-02-15T13:43:32.285+00:00Ms Scarlet: Indeed. Only Charles II could write ab...Ms Scarlet: Indeed. Only Charles II could write about Charles II. That would be tricky. Clairvoyants would be needed to contact the King.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-45343538352789583512020-02-15T12:44:56.733+00:002020-02-15T12:44:56.733+00:00Who would write all the historical novels then? Gh...Who would write all the historical novels then? Ghost writers????<br />SxMs Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449626572478125088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-5721248482954979682020-02-15T07:43:39.890+00:002020-02-15T07:43:39.890+00:00Joanne: Very true, there's nothing new under t...Joanne: Very true, there's nothing new under the sun (well, not much anyway). And all she's appropriated is a large chunk of imagination.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-41707693282708894642020-02-15T07:41:14.768+00:002020-02-15T07:41:14.768+00:00Jean: There are lots of Italian restaurants run by...Jean: There are lots of Italian restaurants run by non-Italians. Should we close them all down?nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-22056533901022851152020-02-15T01:38:32.068+00:002020-02-15T01:38:32.068+00:00Some people have so little to do they make trouble...Some people have so little to do they make trouble where none existed. As an artisan myself, I learned early on, there is nothing new under the sun. Ms. Cummins has appropriated nothing.Joanne Noragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601010208310707750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-46655355627952368552020-02-14T19:23:45.333+00:002020-02-14T19:23:45.333+00:00I've also heard the argument that people shoul...I've also heard the argument that people shouldn't open Mexican restaurants if they're not Latinos. Ridiculous.<br /><br />I agree with Austin Kleon, Steal Like an Artist. CheerfulMonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934008738777906970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-91648380836181778532020-02-14T18:40:55.027+00:002020-02-14T18:40:55.027+00:00Liz: My thoughts exactly. What's the alternati...Liz: My thoughts exactly. What's the alternative to "cultural appropriation"? Acting as if no other cultures exist except our own?nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-48371642199136702512020-02-14T18:30:33.319+00:002020-02-14T18:30:33.319+00:00How ridiculous!How ridiculous!Liz Hindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646532093872561703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-56349439062517272462020-02-14T17:10:48.079+00:002020-02-14T17:10:48.079+00:00Colette: Absolutely. Artists borrow from each othe...Colette: Absolutely. Artists borrow from each other all the time, and the world would be a much poorer place if they didn't.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-41084042139602486272020-02-14T17:09:54.814+00:002020-02-14T17:09:54.814+00:00www: I haven't read it, and don't intend t...www: I haven't read it, and don't intend to as apparently it's very badly written. Certainly I would prefer to read novels by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie or Valeria Luiselli (assuming they're more "authentic")nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-6103195219134631032020-02-14T17:01:40.947+00:002020-02-14T17:01:40.947+00:00Ursula: Indeed. What am I entitled to write about,...Ursula: Indeed. What am I entitled to write about, I wonder? An elderly white man with raised blood pressure and short sight? Too bad if I wanted to write about a middle-aged man with normal blood pressure and perfect eyesight.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.com