tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post6622107225720662586..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Something extranickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-81233530756579955152009-10-04T13:33:01.274+01:002009-10-04T13:33:01.274+01:00Kylie - Now there's a good, honest comment. Ho...Kylie - Now there's a good, honest comment. How refreshing! I think the complicated ins and outs of tipping are another good reason for scrapping it in favour of decent wages....Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-88338041522243668252009-10-04T11:35:40.764+01:002009-10-04T11:35:40.764+01:00oh dear.....
i have never thought about all the in...oh dear.....<br />i have never thought about all the ins & outs of tipping. this comment page makes it look like a minefield<br /><br />off i go to thinkkyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-29091723331383605592009-10-03T21:09:51.123+01:002009-10-03T21:09:51.123+01:00Grannymar - Hopefully the new law has put an end t...Grannymar - Hopefully the new law has put an end to that racket, though no doubt the restaurateurs will find a new wages racket to put in its place.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-74615319221626566152009-10-03T18:56:13.911+01:002009-10-03T18:56:13.911+01:00I stopped tipping when I discovered that my pensio...I stopped tipping when I discovered that my pension was being used by employers to pay wages. It is up to the employer to pay an adequate wage. If I want to tip someone for their service I will hand the money to them.Grannymarhttp://grannymar.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-6871932631734786052009-10-03T13:36:17.808+01:002009-10-03T13:36:17.808+01:00Baino - Good point (which Megan also made) about t...Baino - Good point (which Megan also made) about the guys behind the scenes who ought to share the tips as well. But that's another inbuilt unfairness - only the visible staff get tips. I'm glad it's understood that tips will be shared among staff, but does everyone stick to that?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-89029680550327011402009-10-03T10:54:16.573+01:002009-10-03T10:54:16.573+01:00Nick as you know. Australians don't tip well. ...Nick as you know. Australians don't tip well. Here, award and penalty rates apply, most wait and bar staff are foreigners or students or casual workers doing a second job. Particularly in the touristy areas. I tip if the service is excellent which it rarely is and if the food is wonderful which it often is. It does worry me that if you leave a tip on the table, it will be pocketed by the backpacker serving and none will find it's way to the dish pig doing the washing up. <br /><br />Pay staff a fair wage and there will be no need to tip. God knows restaurants charge enough for their meals. My philosophy is to factor the tip into the price of the meal. If I pay $30 for a simple fish meal and pay extra for veggies, buggered if I'm going to tip service! To me 'tipping' is archaic in today's society. My niece who manages a bar in Melbourne would disagree but she's paid well . .tips are a bonus shared on cocktails at the end of the night. She has more disposable income than I do. Frankly, I'm very much against it. Nobody tips me if I do my job well.<br />Having said all that. If a patron leaves a tip its 'understood' that it will be shared amongst staff, not pilfered by management.Bainohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156193098088048637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-30718088363229655632009-10-02T21:38:44.165+01:002009-10-02T21:38:44.165+01:00LA Liz - When we first went to the States and Cana...LA Liz - When we first went to the States and Canada, it took us a while to cotton on that tips there were a lot higher than the British 10%. We were very embarrassed to realise how little we'd been tipping people!<br /><br />Megan - I'm not sure if tips in Britain are pooled or not, I always assume they aren't (unless there's a tip bowl). And I doubt if many servers declare their tips to the tax office!Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-30961624824558492692009-10-02T21:19:59.261+01:002009-10-02T21:19:59.261+01:00I'm not sure, but I think that even if you lea...I'm not sure, but I think that even if you leave a separate tip for your server, they are still required to turn it in to the 'pool' - if memory serves, that rule was instituted because the busboys were not always getting a share. And also, of course, so that all tips are reported to the tax man...Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09387041422819664987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-22830026150081820302009-10-02T21:14:23.446+01:002009-10-02T21:14:23.446+01:00I always tip 20% unless service was horrid. But I...I always tip 20% unless service was horrid. But I'd prefer if folks just got paid a living wage. <br /><br />And so true, it's hard to tip when you have no cash. This past weekend we were checking into a hotel and needed to tip the bell hop but discovered we had NO cash. Oh it was horrible. I wanted to die. It's much harder in a cashless society to remember to keep some dollars in your wallet for tips.Liz Dwyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794296990587989214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-89087869670659436682009-10-02T21:08:42.579+01:002009-10-02T21:08:42.579+01:00Ramana - Yes, if there's a service charge I ce...Ramana - Yes, if there's a service charge I certainly wouldn't tip as well. Though unfortunately the service charge probably goes straight to the management.<br /><br />Liz - I just looked this up. The French for tip is pourboire, and gratuit does indeed mean free. I can see why they were puzzled - perhaps they thought you were asking for a free meal!Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-56231666638831811152009-10-02T18:40:40.391+01:002009-10-02T18:40:40.391+01:00In Corsica we had absolutely no change and Husband...In Corsica we had absolutely no change and Husband wanted to add the tip to the bill. The only word he could think of was gratuit. The waiter who spoke little English was puzzled. We now think gratuit means free.Liz Hindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646532093872561703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-48496612850577576532009-10-02T17:40:13.773+01:002009-10-02T17:40:13.773+01:00I had a rule about tipping when I used to frequent...I had a rule about tipping when I used to frequent restaurants hotels etc. If there was a service charge added on to the bill, I would not tip. Otherwise, I would. The latter, on the assumption that the service deserved a tip. I have also had occasions when I did not tip and made it clear to the management as to why I did not.Ramana Rajgopaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07595611334904650281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-44854381852291771872009-10-02T09:07:58.787+01:002009-10-02T09:07:58.787+01:00www - Noblesse oblige, that's exactly it. &quo...www - Noblesse oblige, that's exactly it. "Have a few groats, my good man." I've never seen one of those chambermaid envelopes, but I always tip chambermaids generously, I shudder to think how little they earn. Nowadays they're even set performance targets, I hear, so many rooms to be done every hour. Incredible.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-12813630009364175152009-10-02T03:24:10.765+01:002009-10-02T03:24:10.765+01:00About time Nick, it is so demeaning to have to gro...About time Nick, it is so demeaning to have to grovel, as you say, for a living wage. I tip generously but hate the noblesse oblige aspect of it all and I never penalize wait staff for a lousy meal from the underpaid chef.<br />XO<br />WWW<br />PS and oh I hate the envelope in hotel rooms for the anonymous chamber maid. "Hello, I'm Greta. If you're happy with your room, please show me appreciation."Wisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-49867121756193220142009-10-01T21:43:08.460+01:002009-10-01T21:43:08.460+01:00Leah - So wait staff in the States still get below...Leah - So wait staff in the States still get below the minimum wage and are expected to make up the difference with tips? Exactly what England has just outlawed....<br /><br />And tips are expected at the carwash when you do everything yourself? That's crazy, I've never heard of that here.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-71822916221893754432009-10-01T21:26:47.889+01:002009-10-01T21:26:47.889+01:00Tipping is a funny thing. I do it always, and oft...Tipping is a funny thing. I do it always, and often enormously, but I agree with you. Good wages shouldn't be replaced by the caprice of the user. Most wait staff get below minimum because of the tip thing. It's unconscionable really.<br /><br />The only person I really want to tip anyway, besides my beloved hair cutter, is a waiter. Now tips are expected everywhere--even the guy at the car wash who doesn't do anything but stare blankly at you and tell you to put the car in neutral.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14061893047279652658noreply@blogger.com