tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post5548473630388678837..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Not much funnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-12385176469027516962016-11-11T15:04:08.555+00:002016-11-11T15:04:08.555+00:00Jacqueline: I don't know why anyone would want...Jacqueline: I don't know why anyone would want to go to Las Vegas period, never mind for a stag do. The whole place seems totally artificial. But then, stag parties are pretty artificial too. Yes, why not some drinks down the pub?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-4740720151056310822016-11-11T13:52:17.617+00:002016-11-11T13:52:17.617+00:00I don't get it .... and I certainly don't ...I don't get it .... and I certainly don't understand why some go to Las Vegas for a week or more !!! What's wrong with a couple of drinks at the local ?!!!! I'm obviously old !! XXXXJacqueline @ HOMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06154045482594773377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-46161738326004407922016-11-11T12:59:34.527+00:002016-11-11T12:59:34.527+00:00I will wait :-)
SxI will wait :-)<br />SxMs Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449626572478125088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-50534810414332286522016-11-11T12:43:31.715+00:002016-11-11T12:43:31.715+00:00Scarlet: I've been a bit distracted. We've...Scarlet: I've been a bit distracted. We've had the painters in for two weeks, plus the Trump sensation, plus Leonard Cohen dying. I'm trying hard to cobble together a new post....Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-61175638917436080922016-11-11T12:39:58.433+00:002016-11-11T12:39:58.433+00:00It's from Spartan times.
Don't mind me I a...It's from Spartan times.<br />Don't mind me I am just loitering here waiting for you to publish a new post.<br />SxMs Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449626572478125088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-10650336701780036162016-11-11T12:35:32.944+00:002016-11-11T12:35:32.944+00:00Scarlet: I'm not sure the Victorians were as r...Scarlet: I'm not sure the Victorians were as repressed as the popular image suggests. And I don't think it's a reaction to repression so much as simple recklessness and irresponsibility.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-15595429788806910442016-11-11T11:53:17.615+00:002016-11-11T11:53:17.615+00:00We are a weird nation.... maybe it stems from our ...We are a weird nation.... maybe it stems from our repressed Victorian roots? Oh, apparently it's from Spartan times...<br />SxMs Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449626572478125088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-56815474983317250562016-11-09T07:13:56.308+00:002016-11-09T07:13:56.308+00:00Tammy: Oh, me too. Spending hours in the company o...Tammy: Oh, me too. Spending hours in the company of a bunch of drunk, raucous and leering males isn't my idea of fun either. I'll join you in Boredomville!Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-39750335757009877112016-11-08T22:48:10.481+00:002016-11-08T22:48:10.481+00:00wow.
I have never in the least been a prude.
but I...wow.<br />I have never in the least been a prude.<br />but I have to admit... that kind of evening and place has always made me uncomfortable.<br />I think it's the unpredictability of people who drink to excess and feel free to act however they might want to.<br />the thought of it has always made me just want to be at home with a good book! LOL!<br />miss boring in boredomville I guess. but so be it. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-77973065016440566912016-11-08T11:06:18.314+00:002016-11-08T11:06:18.314+00:00Agent: As you say, it's not just disrespect to...Agent: As you say, it's not just disrespect to women, it's infidelity. It's a sordid sexual obsession with female bodies removed from any normal caring and intimate relationship.<br /><br />Jenny: Yes, the stag and hen nights you've come across are far from typical! If only they were all so sedate and sensible....Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-69731007117216465422016-11-08T07:09:03.597+00:002016-11-08T07:09:03.597+00:00I find it a mystery too. But the modern stag dos I...I find it a mystery too. But the modern stag dos I know are often just a get together of friends, with a few jokes thrown in. The hen nights are often about getting together and making stuff for fun, decorations, etc. Maybe I just know rather staid people :)<br />Jenny Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16881781466502273314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-82940361447686921952016-11-08T02:34:26.056+00:002016-11-08T02:34:26.056+00:00Ursula - Yes, even if it was a business event, I&#...Ursula - Yes, even if it was a business event, I'd be done. I would not marry a man whose job involved going to a strip club. It is indeed disrespectful to women. And it's infidelity, plain and simple. You can call it over the top or holier than thou if you need to, but I get to decide my own moral code for myself.Secret Agent Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564690116156754219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-67676098040501219922016-11-07T21:31:59.361+00:002016-11-07T21:31:59.361+00:00Dave: There are far too many loutish men. They see...Dave: There are far too many loutish men. They seem to think it impresses people. Personally, it just makes me cringe.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-67052352661307839122016-11-07T20:35:29.836+00:002016-11-07T20:35:29.836+00:00Perhaps that says more about loutish blokes than s...Perhaps that says more about loutish blokes than strip clubs. That sort of uncouth dickhead gives all men a bad name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-18735382542017070112016-11-07T19:45:18.346+00:002016-11-07T19:45:18.346+00:00Dave: I think there's a huge difference betwee...Dave: I think there's a huge difference between admiring an attractive woman and sitting in a strip club with a crowd of lecherous men gawping at scantily-clad females who probably despise their audience. There's no harm done if I admire Claudia Schiffer or Penelope Cruz.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-59632348055371190462016-11-07T19:31:16.573+00:002016-11-07T19:31:16.573+00:00Ursula: Isn't that an obvious contradiction - ...Ursula: Isn't that an obvious contradiction - that a man supposedly respects women and isn't misogynistic, but at the same time wouldn't want his women folk to do the same job?<br /><br />Women may shrug their shoulders at the punters, as if they couldn't care less, but what are they really feeling as they're endlessly sized-up and checked-out? Most women hate their bodies from an early age, and that's why.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-13802340824081645382016-11-07T19:28:20.825+00:002016-11-07T19:28:20.825+00:00I'd have thought ogling women was perfectly no...I'd have thought ogling women was perfectly normal for heterosexual men. Obviously there's a huge difference between appreciation of the female form and being a dirty old letch. I love to see attractive women but I was never taught to, I simply appreciate beauty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-20126937835266155452016-11-07T19:16:16.600+00:002016-11-07T19:16:16.600+00:00Hattie: It baffles me that strip clubs are conside...Hattie: It baffles me that strip clubs are considered so "normal". What's normal about ogling women? It's something men have to be taught to do, to prove their "masculinity".Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-42426084654682212782016-11-07T19:12:03.496+00:002016-11-07T19:12:03.496+00:00"A desperate need for money", you say.
..."A desperate need for money", you say. <br /><br />Yes, but that also goes for men going down the mines. There are many shit jobs done by so many, regardless of gender. And many more demeaning than pole dancing. Certainly less lucrative. I will declare my hand in as much as I, personally, wouldn't be able to dance a pole, prostitute myself. But the reason for that has nothing to do with being some sort of holy whitewash Madonna. Not at all. In fact I admire women who can do this and shrug their shoulders at their punters. I also do know some remarkable men who will, occasionally, frequent those places. These guys are highly intelligent and have nothing but "respect" for women. There is no misogyny whatsoever on their part. They are buying a "service" as they are buying a drink. Sure, they will admit that if their mother, wife, daughter went down that "career" path they'd be the first to throw a hissy fit. Why? As the Angel would say: Mama, it's primal.<br /><br />As it happens I am pretty close to someone who turned her whole life around and actually CHOSE to sell her body. Not because she needs to, because she wants to. Yes, don't say it, I know - she is as weird as weird gets. I have many reservations about that person but not because of her rather peculiar choice of earning a living.<br /><br />UUrsulahttp://bitchontheblog.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-50875211666933064652016-11-07T18:11:13.080+00:002016-11-07T18:11:13.080+00:00Sorry, not strip bars, "hostess bars." T...Sorry, not strip bars, "hostess bars." The more you pay, the more you get is the way they work. Hattiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13297404386730167834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-54865212695020890972016-11-07T18:09:39.837+00:002016-11-07T18:09:39.837+00:00Our mayor in Hilo, Hawaii went on trial for using ...Our mayor in Hilo, Hawaii went on trial for using his county-issued credit card to pay for evenings at Korean strip bars in Honolulu. He was acquitted. He's just a good old boy, after all. <br />Hattiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13297404386730167834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-63692567576860037122016-11-07T17:16:22.110+00:002016-11-07T17:16:22.110+00:00Ursula: Goodness, where do I start? You've rai...Ursula: Goodness, where do I start? You've raised so many points I'm a little bowled over.<br /><br />I disagree that no one can be made to do something without their consent. It happens all the time. You only have to be a bit indecisive, or too tired to argue, or offered some beguiling argument (or a wad of money), and you give way.<br /><br />Again, the German Polterabend evenings sound much more appealing than the British Vomit and Pass Out evenings. I like the idea of breaking porcelain to bless the marriage.<br /><br />No one forces women to perform at strip clubs? What, like no one forces women to do mind-numbing factory jobs or work a cash desk at Tesco? I think a desperate need for money may come into it somewhere. And do you honestly think the men who pay to ogle women's bodies have respect for them? Or their "wares" as you put it? If they respected women they would be meeting them as friends and not as sex objects in a strip club.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-90725026987607354082016-11-07T16:56:37.831+00:002016-11-07T16:56:37.831+00:00Dave: Is that the case, that you can't touch? ...Dave: Is that the case, that you can't touch? Just a big tease then?<br /><br />I have a strong moral objection to strip clubs. Whatever the women or the owners may say, it has to be degrading and dehumanising to have dozens of men leering and ogling at you as if you're a piece of choice meat.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-27723564617718047612016-11-07T15:55:35.956+00:002016-11-07T15:55:35.956+00:00Never been to a strip club - I have no moral objec...Never been to a strip club - I have no moral objection to them at all, but I can't see the point if you can't touch.<br />It's like having someone waving a plateful of delicious chocolates under your nose but not letting you eat one, or like someone saying you can have a go in their Ferrari, but then locking the doors.<br />Why subject yourself to torture?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-78989143056096068462016-11-07T14:53:22.259+00:002016-11-07T14:53:22.259+00:00Ramana: It seems stag nights in India are also mor...Ramana: It seems stag nights in India are also more civilised than the British version. As you say, it helps if you don't drink and nasty hangovers are ruled out!Nicknoreply@blogger.com