tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post5441906683742835132..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: It's good to lienickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-82631448330270615712010-05-17T22:15:16.904+01:002010-05-17T22:15:16.904+01:00Secret Agent - I'm sure you're right about...Secret Agent - I'm sure you're right about abusive homes, and sparing feelings too. I hadn't thought about people using the idea of honesty to justify their own hostility. But yes, I've seen a few examples of that.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-83901640290345462402010-05-17T21:36:51.717+01:002010-05-17T21:36:51.717+01:00For kids in abusive homes, lying is a very necessa...For kids in abusive homes, lying is a very necessary skill for self-protection And lying to spare feelings is sometimes a good thing. When I hear people say "One thing I hate is a liar" I want to ask them if they are comfortable with their own hypocrisy. I am not advocating whole sale lying, but I am pretty disgusted by people who use a sanctimonious adherance to "truth" to mask hostile telling of their opinions.secret agent womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03763879283931347382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-52106948674601782152010-05-17T20:49:50.207+01:002010-05-17T20:49:50.207+01:00Kate - Nice one! My goodness, we'd better ban ...Kate - Nice one! My goodness, we'd better ban fairytales rightaway, they're a thoroughly bad influence!Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-76055374371340518582010-05-17T18:58:32.657+01:002010-05-17T18:58:32.657+01:00We are crazy people aren't we? We bring our ki...We are crazy people aren't we? We bring our kids up to enjoy fairytales and then tell them off for lying!!!!Katehttp://www.iramble.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-13363763061272357342010-05-17T17:17:21.026+01:002010-05-17T17:17:21.026+01:00Scarlet - A big fat lie is always best. Did I ever...Scarlet - A big fat lie is always best. Did I ever tell you I slept with Madonna?<br /><br />Grannymar - I absolutely love that outfit you're wearing. The shoes are sensational. And I adore the new hairdo.<br /><br />Ramana - Of course children notice those contradictions much more quickly than adults. And they realise they can invent things too, just like mummy and daddy.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-76595390279638948362010-05-17T16:02:40.955+01:002010-05-17T16:02:40.955+01:00In teaching values to children, parents often act ...In teaching values to children, parents often act different to what they preach. This conflicting signal is what turns children into congenital liars. For instance, the child is told not to lie but sees her parents lying all the time.Rummuserhttp://www.rummuser.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-80662303927655740212010-05-17T15:17:02.486+01:002010-05-17T15:17:02.486+01:00The trouble with one white lie is it leads to anot...The trouble with one white lie is it leads to another and another and another and.....!grannymarhttp://grannymar.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-21701071361818733932010-05-17T14:20:54.965+01:002010-05-17T14:20:54.965+01:00The devil's in the detail... they need to lear...The devil's in the detail... they need to learn when a big fat lie is better than the slender truth.<br />SxMs Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449626572478125088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-27496263734281213272010-05-17T09:20:09.956+01:002010-05-17T09:20:09.956+01:00www - So if you want to be a writer, first learn t...www - So if you want to be a writer, first learn to be a brilliant liar? I have to admit I tell a few lies myself - for excellent reasons of course.<br /><br />Liz - That sounds good, encouraging their development in more healthy ways and at the same time avoiding the need to lie. You're lucky they're such bad liars you can see straight through them!Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-46387876510655192362010-05-17T08:25:05.019+01:002010-05-17T08:25:05.019+01:00When they do lie to me (which is rare at this age)...When they do lie to me (which is rare at this age) I find that my two sons are awful liars. They don't have a lot of fear of getting in trouble - which is why so many kids lie. Not that they don't have consequences, because they do, but I find it so much more productive to set kids up for success so they don't feel the need to lie. Then they can be creative without being deceptive.Liz Dwyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794296990587989214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-24536603961053826342010-05-17T05:36:08.587+01:002010-05-17T05:36:08.587+01:00Funny this one, Nick. On my writing courses I have...Funny this one, Nick. On my writing courses I have learned that writers are pretty good liars from a very early age.<br />And I've taken surveys in the workshops I give and sure enough, us writers are a bunch of creative liars when children (often to protect ourselves).<br />Fascinating topic.<br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-6689998433495161512010-05-16T22:14:26.665+01:002010-05-16T22:14:26.665+01:00Baino - Two's quite late for talking, but I di...Baino - Two's quite late for talking, but I didn't start till I was two either. Glad to hear there's no overt lying, but isn't deliberate omission a kind of lie too?<br /><br />e - I guess pathological liars would have a very different brain as they've entirely lost touch with reality. Good point about lying as a power tactic. Children learn about power pretty early on too.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-85175224993391068022010-05-16T21:47:32.124+01:002010-05-16T21:47:32.124+01:00There are those for whom lying becomes pathologica...There are those for whom lying becomes pathological...I wonder what the story on that is?<br /><br />Sometimes lying to adults is the only way children have any power in situations...of course, they rarely consider getting caught out.ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11376645220662546020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-73590042500025724152010-05-16T20:13:44.216+01:002010-05-16T20:13:44.216+01:00They learn to lie by 2 years of age? That's am...They learn to lie by 2 years of age? That's amazing, mine could barely talk at two! I guess we all do it in some form or another by omission rather than overt lying but it's rather sad isn't it? My only problem with lying is that you need to remember the lie in order not to be caught out!Bainohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156193098088048637noreply@blogger.com