tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post3523620414849365713..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Faux pasnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-42589390474466312017-04-17T17:15:20.956+01:002017-04-17T17:15:20.956+01:00Ursula: Well, appreciation of art is a very indivi...Ursula: Well, appreciation of art is a very individual thing, isn't it? It's hard to explain why I like My Bed. I suppose it typifies a particular sort of life: disordered, messy, rebellious, with no attempt to look respectable or hide anything embarrassing - tampons, contraceptives, vodka, fag ends, tatty slippers, discarded tights etc. It suggests a flawed human being with all her weaknesses, as opposed to the perfect, idealised human beings depicted in other works of art. How's that?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-22675717342425609872017-04-17T14:39:29.778+01:002017-04-17T14:39:29.778+01:00Serious question, Nick, and I am genuinely interes...Serious question, Nick, and I am genuinely interested in your answer:<br /><br />What's to like about Emin's bed? By the way, I like her, the person. She appears a bit lost but has made "art" out of her persona. In common with Hirst "The Emperor's New Clothes" spring to mind. An audience applauding that which doesn't exist.<br /><br />For the record: I didn't mean to imply that either you or I think art is "a load of shit". Abd, trust me, oh the irony of it, no one is more critical of "art" than artists. They tear each other apart where mere mortals wouldn't dare to tread at danger of eggshells lying in waiting to be crushed.<br /><br />UUrsulahttp://bitchontheblog.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-16896815234325887092017-04-17T11:20:55.584+01:002017-04-17T11:20:55.584+01:00Ursula: Being your usual provocative self I see. I...Ursula: Being your usual provocative self I see. I'm sure Mia is more than capable of defending herself.<br /><br />No, I didn't say the world is full of shit. Or that art is a load of shit. The sculpture and its location might however be a publicity stunt. It might well also be art, but as I said, if you can't get close enough to examine it properly, it's hard to say if it's art or just an unremarkable human lookalike.<br /><br />Oh, and I rather like Tracey Emin's unmade bed.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-70751151154322178062017-04-17T08:53:02.484+01:002017-04-17T08:53:02.484+01:00This is directed at Mia More:
So, apart from you,...This is directed at Mia More:<br /><br />So, apart from you, those of Nick's readers who commented are "all" "conventional"? What constitutes "conventional"? Refusing to gawp with the admiring crowd when faced with an unmade bed, a preserved cow and some dog shit "artfully" turd in your front garden? Expression of self, is that it? Expression of self is fine. Just don't call it art.<br /><br />Art, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. A personal perspective. Not something that can be prescribed to the "conventional" by those who flatter themselves to be UNconventional.<br /><br />With his post Nick highlighted something. Namely that the world is full of shit. Or, as the cynic may agree and Ramana said, in this case a publicity stunt well executed.<br /><br />Still, controversy is to be encouraged if only so no one goes to sleep.<br /><br />U<br /><br />PS Don't walk underneath a ladder.Ursulahttp://bitchontheblog.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-74146831493899588812017-04-16T20:47:20.926+01:002017-04-16T20:47:20.926+01:00Jean: A body as a murder weapon? Very original. Ye...Jean: A body as a murder weapon? Very original. Yes, I also wonder how secure that sculpture is. Would it resist a really fierce storm?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-46878622930361166312017-04-16T20:18:38.909+01:002017-04-16T20:18:38.909+01:00I like it. The statue looks poised, not desperate...I like it. The statue looks poised, not desperate. But I wouldn't like to walk under it just in case it fell on me. I recently watched a TV show where a poor person got killed by a body falling on top of him. It was murder, not suicide. Double murder as it turned out. CheerfulMonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934008738777906970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-55230927506060543932017-04-16T15:44:23.481+01:002017-04-16T15:44:23.481+01:00Mia: I don't think putting the idea into peopl...Mia: I don't think putting the idea into people's minds was the main objection. People were more concerned that it looked like someone was about to jump off the roof and they needed to raise the alarm.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-26520044993331155542017-04-16T14:21:51.271+01:002017-04-16T14:21:51.271+01:00Why seem you all to be so conventional ?
A person...Why seem you all to be so conventional ? <br />A person doesn't need a sculpture on a roof to commit suicide. Why do people need an explanation for everything ?<br />Mia MoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-9510615486930424222017-04-16T08:58:11.329+01:002017-04-16T08:58:11.329+01:00Jean: That's horrifying. There's a long li...Jean: That's horrifying. There's a long line of men foolishly trying to impress their girlfriends and coming a cropper.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-12593749183393671042017-04-16T05:30:09.618+01:002017-04-16T05:30:09.618+01:00Ursula's comment reminds me of a student at Co...Ursula's comment reminds me of a student at Cornell once. He did a handstand on a bridge over a gorge to impress his girlfriend. He did, but not the way he wanted. He fell over into the gorge and killed himself. CheerfulMonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934008738777906970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-36502675544083361782017-04-15T13:47:16.568+01:002017-04-15T13:47:16.568+01:00Ramana: He's certainly had plenty of publicity...Ramana: He's certainly had plenty of publicity. I still wonder what he himself has to say about the rooftop sculpture.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-48458923687692832012017-04-15T13:37:22.684+01:002017-04-15T13:37:22.684+01:00Sir Antony Gormley has achieved what he wanted. ...Sir Antony Gormley has achieved what he wanted. Widespread publicity for his work and more importantly for himself. My reaction to the statue and its location is 'Nuts!'Rummuserhttp://rummuser.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-50310443043862211342017-04-15T13:31:11.442+01:002017-04-15T13:31:11.442+01:00Ursula: I doubt somehow that any student would go ...Ursula: I doubt somehow that any student would go on the roof and pretend to be suicidal. But you never know - in a moment of drunken lunacy, they might just do something so unfunny and irresponsible.<br /><br />Yes, there are many sins committed in the name of art, but then again there's plenty of sinning in the name of all sorts of human activities. Like all the embellishments and inventions that find their way into supposedly truthful autobiographies.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-30039292978427980972017-04-15T11:47:07.721+01:002017-04-15T11:47:07.721+01:00Utterly depressing. What's "art" got...Utterly depressing. What's "art" got to do with it? <br /><br />Anyway, don't put stupid ideas into people's heads to pull a prank. I know at least three people in my life who were (in their young age - cue Uni) or still are reckless and perfectly capable of going up there, standing right next to that statue, pretending to sway with the wind, and at least one of them - law of average - WILL be falling off. That's when it becomes "life art". Complete with funeral.<br /><br />The sins that are committed in the name of "art" are many.<br /><br />UUrsulahttp://bitchontheblog.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-89371140861027511222017-04-15T11:19:57.128+01:002017-04-15T11:19:57.128+01:00Agent: I guess you draw the line at anything that ...Agent: I guess you draw the line at anything that could be seen as alarming, and I would think quite a few people coming upon the sculpture unexpectedly would be alarmed. You don't expect to see a sculpture on a rooftop, so surely your immediate thought would be, is that a person?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-77999566392796812382017-04-15T09:52:38.075+01:002017-04-15T09:52:38.075+01:00Bijoux makes a good point about where we draw the ...Bijoux makes a good point about where we draw the line. I can imagine several ways the figure might be arranged to look threatening or frightening. I can't decide about this one - seems iffy.Secret Agent Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564690116156754219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-92118278690833720232017-04-15T09:01:10.474+01:002017-04-15T09:01:10.474+01:00Bijoux: If the figure was crouched down with a gun...Bijoux: If the figure was crouched down with a gun, that would be really scary.<br /><br />Mia: It annoys me when works of art are banned from display for what seem to be totally irrational and idiotic reasons.<br /><br />Dave: The pseudo-intellectual aspect pisses me off as well (all those utterly pretentious exhibition guides). I think the sculpture is art, but I do wonder why that location was chosen.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-4772041915897648472017-04-15T08:54:35.491+01:002017-04-15T08:54:35.491+01:00John: Given you volunteer with the Samaritans, I g...John: Given you volunteer with the Samaritans, I guess you're somewhat of an expert on the subject....<br /><br />www: Evocative and thought-provoking? Well, it certainly is that.<br /><br />Kylie: It definitely provokes an emotional reaction. Perhaps we'd have to see the sculpture in situ to form a valid opinion of it.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-73491154414974979082017-04-15T08:04:29.655+01:002017-04-15T08:04:29.655+01:00The poncey intellectual side of art is a mystery t...The poncey intellectual side of art is a mystery to me. I know what I like and what I don't. To me this seems pointless, ill-advised and (like a sheep in formaldehyde) not remotely artistic. But each to their own...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-1598372013886628782017-04-15T06:38:24.666+01:002017-04-15T06:38:24.666+01:00I love it and I love Antony Gormley's work. Ar...I love it and I love Antony Gormley's work. Art must always be a surprise . And if we consider all the time what maybe can happen (heavy storms or whatever) we will no longer step out. <br />Mia MoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-24816926946349598002017-04-15T04:35:32.204+01:002017-04-15T04:35:32.204+01:00It gets people talking, but I agree that it might ...It gets people talking, but I agree that it might be stepping over the boundary. Where do we draw the line? What if the figure was crouched down with a gun?Bijouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05788630004051883635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-11015374842561097752017-04-15T00:15:20.422+01:002017-04-15T00:15:20.422+01:00Judging by the photo, I suspect it is bigger than ...Judging by the photo, I suspect it is bigger than a human form and it should be self evident that it's not "a jumper"<br /><br />Good art will challenge the audience and this is doing exactly that. As for the ability to see details etc, while those things can add to the way we experience and appreciate an artwork, I think the fundamental emotional reaction is much more important so this ticks that box, as wellkyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-66172493044864245232017-04-14T23:05:28.359+01:002017-04-14T23:05:28.359+01:00I totally like it. Evocative and thought provoking...I totally like it. Evocative and thought provoking. (Obviously)<br /><br />XO<br />WWW<br /><br />Wisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-23925528360771236382017-04-14T23:01:58.935+01:002017-04-14T23:01:58.935+01:00I kind of like itI kind of like itJohn Going Gentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958171262765033946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-85321071418894841162017-04-14T21:06:17.965+01:002017-04-14T21:06:17.965+01:00Tammy: We've had some pretty strong winds too,...Tammy: We've had some pretty strong winds too, so I hope the sculpture is well secured, or it might topple down and brain an innocent student!<br /><br />Even if you're familiar with Gormley's sculptures, you might still do a double-take and think, is that a Gormley - or is it a real-life jumper?Nicknoreply@blogger.com