tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post3395977652016176939..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Less than humannickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-3011203445586227242015-02-28T09:00:24.597+00:002015-02-28T09:00:24.597+00:00Of course men who visit prostitutes usually keep i...Of course men who visit prostitutes usually keep it to themselves, so nobody else is aware of it. For all I know, half the men I come across are using prostitutes.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-4632772911269951482015-02-28T08:53:19.446+00:002015-02-28T08:53:19.446+00:00Agent: Well, you ought to know, given your particu...Agent: Well, you ought to know, given your particular job. That confirms what I suspected - all abused and all loathing the customers.<br /><br />I agree with you, I could never respect a man who goes for prostitutes or strippers. How could he possibly have a normal relationship with a woman? And even as another man, I would be disgusted.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-5381641517375829692015-02-28T03:15:22.917+00:002015-02-28T03:15:22.917+00:00I've worked with prostitutes and strippers - t...I've worked with prostitutes and strippers - they are ALL from abuse histories. And all have viewed the men who visit them with contempt. As they should. <br /><br />For myself, I could never have a serious relationship with a man who had ever used a prostitute. Or gone to a strip club. It would tell me all I needed to know about how little respect he had for women.Secret Agent Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564690116156754219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-39852893461034717232015-02-22T21:46:12.910+00:002015-02-22T21:46:12.910+00:00Liz: Quite shocking. And then of course there'...Liz: Quite shocking. And then of course there's all the unasked-for violence (both physical and emotional) that you have to cope with.<br /><br />The idea that it's some kind of vocational choice is absurd. As you say, it's usually some personal crisis that pushes a woman into it.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-76454183956881641962015-02-22T20:00:15.961+00:002015-02-22T20:00:15.961+00:00And in response to John Grey's comment another...And in response to John Grey's comment another quote:<br />"I’ve never met anybody who goes into it business-minded – it’s always been because of some crisis in their life – drugs, family breakdown, homelessness."Liz Hindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646532093872561703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-3620223842648892132015-02-22T19:58:46.088+00:002015-02-22T19:58:46.088+00:00A quote from a sex worker at a recent conference.
...A quote from a sex worker at a recent conference.<br />"One man asked me if he could be violent whilst having sex. I agreed. It wasn’t mild. He battered me – I felt obliged to let him continue."Liz Hindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646532093872561703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-64960611953929838652015-02-19T17:17:37.058+00:002015-02-19T17:17:37.058+00:00Ramana: Much more than a sociological problem, fir...Ramana: Much more than a sociological problem, first and foremost a humanitarian problem. Unfortunately yes, as long as the market exists, there will be prostitutes. And yes also, for the men concerned the women are not much more than raw material.<br /><br />I think the only ultimate answer is bringing up men to respect women and not to use them as receptacles for their sexual release. But that would be a Herculean task given the entrenched misogyny in male culture.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-76409604392327730092015-02-19T14:47:59.337+00:002015-02-19T14:47:59.337+00:00I am surprised that Ursula has not yet commented. ...I am surprised that Ursula has not yet commented. Particularly so after her latest blog post on whores.<br /><br />This is a sociological problem throughout the world and as long as the market exists, someone will find a way to cater to that demand. Stories like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal can be found all over the world as traffickers know exactly how to find the raw material which is all that the girls are for them.<br /><br />I don't have an answer to the problem, but it is a very serious one alright.Rummuserhttp://www.rummuser.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-15458259177412146572015-02-19T14:45:03.250+00:002015-02-19T14:45:03.250+00:00Hey Kylie, it's hard to see how the sex act co...Hey Kylie, it's hard to see how the sex act could be done "professionally". Let me think. All major credit cards accepted? A wide range of fetishes catered for? A deluxe four poster bed? I know I'm being a bit facetious, but you see the point I'm making....Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-24733109627613462242015-02-19T11:58:27.852+00:002015-02-19T11:58:27.852+00:00i didnt say they are like every service provider, ...i didnt say they are like every service provider, i said (in different words) give them credit for the professionalism they are obliged to display. because they do have professional standards kyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-60347080718117438462015-02-19T07:10:16.749+00:002015-02-19T07:10:16.749+00:00Keith: I find that hard to believe, but if that...Keith: I find that hard to believe, but if that's what she says.... She must have somehow arranged it that she's in total control and avoids the usual humiliations.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-65899272343637454792015-02-18T23:12:35.804+00:002015-02-18T23:12:35.804+00:00Recently I saw a TV interview with a prostitute, h...Recently I saw a TV interview with a prostitute, her face blanked out of course, where the interviewer asked her why she became a "sex worker". Her reply surprised me, she said she enjoyed it and wouldn't change it for the world, and she had given up her 9-5 job to have more time for it. I have never used a prostitute, because paying for sex just doesn't seem right. Robert Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13163819196303858927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-14255600994323757232015-02-18T22:39:04.879+00:002015-02-18T22:39:04.879+00:00Jean: And if there are any prostitutes in your tow...Jean: And if there are any prostitutes in your town (which is likely), some of them could well be drug users funding their habit.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-44187666138376938892015-02-18T21:52:46.989+00:002015-02-18T21:52:46.989+00:00Hmm. I don't know if it exists in our small t...Hmm. I don't know if it exists in our small town or not. Drug use is a much bigger problem, I think. Cheerful Monkhttp://cheerfulmonk.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-45927330604304015172015-02-18T19:10:16.662+00:002015-02-18T19:10:16.662+00:00Dave: Personally, I'm not able to separate the...Dave: Personally, I'm not able to separate them either. I've never had casual sex with anyone.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-66595252047575261672015-02-18T17:17:00.936+00:002015-02-18T17:17:00.936+00:00Each to their own Nick - I know there must be plen...Each to their own Nick - I know there must be plenty of men who're able to separate the two things, but I'm not one of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-22410316394622134392015-02-18T16:09:11.313+00:002015-02-18T16:09:11.313+00:00Dave: I don't think sex has to go with emotion...Dave: I don't think sex has to go with emotional attachment necessarily. It can be enjoyed for its own sake, even with complete strangers.<br /><br />Kylie: I don't agree they're like any other service provider. This is a particularly soulless and exploitative business. It's a job inherently devoid of any dignity whatever. Trying to dignify it is like trying to dignify badger-baiting or paté de foie gras.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-15382982425238286302015-02-18T15:55:32.119+00:002015-02-18T15:55:32.119+00:00Jenny: Yes, I think a lot of men have strong sexua...Jenny: Yes, I think a lot of men have strong sexual urges, but is that just because they're endlessly told that men are like that? And even if they do have strong sexual urges, does that entitle them to expect already traumatized women to satisfy them?<br /><br />John: I think the idea of an empowered woman in charge of her own destiny is mainly just that - an idea. In reality the vast majority feel trapped and humiliated.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-24625041942184949202015-02-18T10:45:08.685+00:002015-02-18T10:45:08.685+00:00"Nothing professional about it"
You jus..."Nothing professional about it"<br /><br />You just took away their last shred of dignity. Prostitutes are like every other service provider in that they have to keep some kind of reputation....and that takes a degree of professionalism.kyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-9736323185697674502015-02-18T10:30:20.983+00:002015-02-18T10:30:20.983+00:00Never been tempted by the idea of doing it with a ...Never been tempted by the idea of doing it with a prostitute. Although I lack any first hand knowledge of the 'industry', I've heard enough stories about the things that go on and could never endorse it.<br />For me, sex has to be coupled with emotional attachment - otherwise one might just as well take matters in hand....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-31232147633279831912015-02-18T10:01:14.928+00:002015-02-18T10:01:14.928+00:00I understand prostitution......men seperate sex fr...I understand prostitution......men seperate sex from other emotions to many it's a simple act, uncomplicated from morals and ethics.....<br />Do I agree with it?<br />That's a knotty question......I think the thought of an empowered woman being in charge ipf her own destiny and money within the sex worker field does occur <br />But I wonder how rare it isJohn Going Gentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958171262765033946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-66354803572215585452015-02-18T08:27:06.778+00:002015-02-18T08:27:06.778+00:00I suppose it is always difficult to know how stron...I suppose it is always difficult to know how strong other peoples urges are. I can't help feeling that if you give into them all the time, though, they just become stronger. I think the idea of self indulgence is pushed all the time by advertisers and some people seem to believe that it is in some way harmful to themselves not to reward themselves all the time or get what they want. I mean I think they really believe they SHOULD if they can. Jenny Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16881781466502273314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-27123185593484791812015-02-18T07:54:54.791+00:002015-02-18T07:54:54.791+00:00Helen: It was Dominique Strauss-Kahn who got me th...Helen: It was Dominique Strauss-Kahn who got me thinking about the subject. He is beyond disgusting. As you say, the constant references to meat, material, livestock etc suggest utter hatred of women. As for his claim that he had no idea all the women magically at his beck and call were prostitutes - so what were they? Window cleaners?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-60594835079028092982015-02-18T07:44:52.342+00:002015-02-18T07:44:52.342+00:00Susie: You've probably seen plenty on the stre...Susie: You've probably seen plenty on the streets without knowing what they did for a living.<br /><br />www: Indeed, commodities to be bought and sold. And nowadays often the helpless victims of sex trafficking.Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-10170025587554619232015-02-18T03:15:45.547+00:002015-02-18T03:15:45.547+00:00Have you seen news of the trial in Lille involving...Have you seen news of the trial in Lille involving Strauss-Kahn?<br />Women refers to as the herd. the material...and treated as meat on the hoof...and he, bigwig, walks free....Such an indictment of French moneyed life...Helen Devriesnoreply@blogger.com