tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post289124971647900628..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: Anti vaxnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-6050998490124579682020-11-25T18:30:39.102+00:002020-11-25T18:30:39.102+00:00Kylie: I don't believe government and big phar...Kylie: I don't believe government and big pharma necessarily have our best interests at heart. But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just because there have been medical disasters doesn't mean that all conventional medical treatments are dangerous and we should refuse them. Just as Hitler and Trump and Mugabe don't mean we should abandon the idea of democracy.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-67298915792708664802020-11-25T17:17:59.804+00:002020-11-25T17:17:59.804+00:00Beatrice: Thanks for the friendly welcome! Of cour...Beatrice: Thanks for the friendly welcome! Of course, add me to your blog roll by all means.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-89281160366161790512020-11-25T17:10:23.936+00:002020-11-25T17:10:23.936+00:00Kylie: But the only way to prevent it would be to ...Kylie: But the only way to prevent it would be to never be vaccinated. And since most people are vaccinated without any serious ill-effects, bad luck is exactly what it is.<br /><br />I'm not in any way minimising the loss of potential. It is indeed tragic and devastating for the parents.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-341972220255273002020-11-25T13:09:44.198+00:002020-11-25T13:09:44.198+00:00Hi again Nick, yes long time blog buddies are grea...Hi again Nick, yes long time blog buddies are great, friends we may never ( or might) one day meet. It’s really nice making new ones through other bloggers too. I forgot to ask if it would be OK to add your blog to my side list as it’s an easier way for me, and others, to access them.<br />Also, many thanks for your visit and comment on my blog. Feel free to drop in again, anytime. The welcome mat is always out😀Beatrice P. Boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08281239556392874979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-87222046211337603302020-11-25T10:01:24.239+00:002020-11-25T10:01:24.239+00:00It's not "bad luck" if it was preven...It's not "bad luck" if it was preventable, it's tragic and you're minimising the loss of potential for that childkyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17733888108530605722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-50576048172975255212020-11-25T09:58:13.178+00:002020-11-25T09:58:13.178+00:00Nick,
Thalidomide is not a single disaster, rememb...Nick,<br />Thalidomide is not a single disaster, remember the days when doctors promoted cigarettes? Remember how pregnant women were encouraged to have a drink or two?<br />How about the way statins were promoted and eventually we found out they had significant problems? What about the psychiatric drugs prescribed for depression that increase suicidality?<br /><br />I'm deeply suspicious of big pharma and the governments they influence. There is so much money at stake and so many conflicts of interest. <br /><br />If you believe tha these institutions have our best interests at heart, you're extremely naivekyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17733888108530605722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-43235496828816521762020-11-24T17:11:54.178+00:002020-11-24T17:11:54.178+00:00Beatrice: Hi, thanks for visiting! I've been a...Beatrice: Hi, thanks for visiting! I've been a blog buddy of Bijoux for over 8 years, would you believe.<br /><br />Yes, the vaccine debate is a pretty fierce one. As you say, if someone has had just one bad experience it can put them off vaccines for quite a while, if not for good. But I've never had any adverse reaction to any vaccine, so of course I'm all in favour.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-8296293484173879342020-11-24T14:02:56.750+00:002020-11-24T14:02:56.750+00:00HI Nick, by way of introduction I'm a first-ti...HI Nick, by way of introduction I'm a first-time visitor who dropped in from Bytes from the Burbs (Bijoux) after reading your comments there as I'm always looking for new blogs to read, especially ones that are thought provoking. What a can of worms you opened with this post and resulting comments on the pros and cons of vaccinations.<br />Like yourself, I am in the age category that may be first for an anti-covid vaccine and, yes, I will partake when deemed eligible. In my lifetime, I too have had all sorts of previous vaccinations from childhood through adulthood. In recent years they've included flu (annual), pneumonia (both sets), hepatitis, shingles (both sets). Thankfully all of the above were precautionary and perhaps as a result kept these afflictions away. At least that was the intended result.<br />That said, it was what worked for me. Others claim to have had had differing results and thus may now be anti-vax proponents. At least two people I know both claim they had medical issues after a flu shot reaction. Whether or not these claims are valid, I have no way of knowing.<br />It's definitely not a one-size-all and there are sure to be vociferous and continual debates over whether or not a covid vaccine was prematurely rushed and whether it will be effective.<br /><br /><br />Beatrice P. Boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08281239556392874979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-28392121976302916062020-11-23T07:47:51.307+00:002020-11-23T07:47:51.307+00:00Joared: Also, a lot of people now seem to violentl...Joared: Also, a lot of people now seem to violently disagree with any mainstream thinking as a matter of principle. Anyone who accepts the prevailing opinions must be a fool.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-71800991150547218392020-11-22T23:07:48.381+00:002020-11-22T23:07:48.381+00:00Deliberately introducing the political element imp...Deliberately introducing the political element impacted the thinking of some people. Also, meds, vaccinations can have side effects problematic for some but usually only a small percentage of recipients. I suppose its a fear element out of control coupled with misinformation. Joaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03155775053108104385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-28156584979780666632020-11-21T17:01:11.474+00:002020-11-21T17:01:11.474+00:00Ramana: Interesting. Good that there isn't the...Ramana: Interesting. Good that there isn't the big anti-vax movement where you are.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-114228110183122412020-11-21T12:44:23.648+00:002020-11-21T12:44:23.648+00:00That sentiment is absent here. More likely, it it...That sentiment is absent here. More likely, it it exists, it is not main stream news and / or for being politically correct, not reported in our media.Ramana Rajgopaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07595611334904650281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-36349834031653525532020-11-20T08:01:11.445+00:002020-11-20T08:01:11.445+00:00Indeed. Most people don't change their minds i...Indeed. Most people don't change their minds in a hurry.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-77489217300520918542020-11-20T08:00:26.176+00:002020-11-20T08:00:26.176+00:00Jean: Yes, I'm waiting for a few others to be ...Jean: Yes, I'm waiting for a few others to be guinea pigs!nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-38451006179818764962020-11-20T07:58:57.901+00:002020-11-20T07:58:57.901+00:00Linda: See my responses to Bijoux re the speed of ...Linda: See my responses to Bijoux re the speed of development. But yes, I shall also be watching those ahead of me in the vaccine queue for any nasty side effects!nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-66430674454351997162020-11-20T02:24:58.952+00:002020-11-20T02:24:58.952+00:00It is the immunity from prosecution which worries ...It is the immunity from prosecution which worries me.the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-54486886243083056982020-11-20T00:28:05.073+00:002020-11-20T00:28:05.073+00:00You may as well ask the authorities to pull up eve...You may as well ask the authorities to pull up every man hole cover and eradicate "Deep State". You won't change minds.Joanne Noragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601010208310707750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-3416942145135512202020-11-19T21:18:16.387+00:002020-11-19T21:18:16.387+00:00We're still waiting before we get the new shin...We're still waiting before we get the new shingles vaccine...I had the first one, then shingles itself, so hopefully I'm partially immune. We think the research on the Covid vaccines are a good thing but are happy to wait and read about side effects after enough people get them. <br /><br />We do get the flu shot every year. My daughter does too now, but she has more of a reaction to it than most people. CheerfulMonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934008738777906970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-61671911807432842020-11-19T21:13:23.052+00:002020-11-19T21:13:23.052+00:00I have had nearly every vaccine known to man yet I...I have had nearly every vaccine known to man yet I am not in a hurry to have this one. The rush to production scares me just a bit. I'm sure I will have it; I just don't want to be one of the first to do so. I'm using the excuse that all the critical personnel should have it first. :)Linda Sandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12734450335251336493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-23525729328253247742020-11-19T16:49:31.740+00:002020-11-19T16:49:31.740+00:00Bijoux: Also, the vaccine is building on flu vacci...Bijoux: Also, the vaccine is building on flu vaccines that have already worked before, such as the MERS vaccine. Not to mention scientists working round the clock to speed things up.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-78161405922125817182020-11-19T16:42:11.430+00:002020-11-19T16:42:11.430+00:00Ursula: Re "a few months' research",...Ursula: Re "a few months' research", please read my reply to Bijoux.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-13297521445170751052020-11-19T16:38:32.347+00:002020-11-19T16:38:32.347+00:00www: This is it, the benefits far outweigh the pos...www: This is it, the benefits far outweigh the possible risks. But I'm sorry to hear about your niece's child's autism. Again, it's very bad luck.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-8976019967122327812020-11-19T16:36:33.783+00:002020-11-19T16:36:33.783+00:00Nick, I do NOT "condemn an entire history of ...Nick, I do NOT "condemn an entire history of vaccinations" wholesale. Hail to Dr Jenner (small pox). All I said that I'd advise caution, not hang all our hopes on a few months' research into a vaccine, arrived at in a desperate scramble and barely tested.<br /><br />UUrsulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722046288685936851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-31438522928228078612020-11-19T16:35:17.967+00:002020-11-19T16:35:17.967+00:00Mike: Exactly, these vaccines have been tested on ...Mike: Exactly, these vaccines have been tested on huge numbers of people, so surely you have to assume they're as safe as they can be.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-12775181385098505492020-11-19T16:34:48.229+00:002020-11-19T16:34:48.229+00:00I have a niece who puts her child's autism dow...I have a niece who puts her child's autism down to a vaccination, as the child had engaged emotionally with everyone until one month after the vax and she became almost catatonic. I do believe there are cases. Having said that, I read of disastrous after effects to the flu shot, some resulting in death. But they are rare. And I do have a flu shot and a pneumonia shot. And also has shingles. The good outweighs the minimal downsides.<br /><br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.com