tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post2207155843311367654..comments2024-03-28T07:49:04.960+00:00Comments on nickhereandnow: A prank too farnickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10472673041193755894noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-22888980862104504902018-01-12T20:54:15.608+00:002018-01-12T20:54:15.608+00:00Polly: Yes, that seems like an appropriate penalty...Polly: Yes, that seems like an appropriate penalty to me. He won't be vandalising anyone else's liver in a hurry.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-10065397930335454202018-01-12T15:00:14.451+00:002018-01-12T15:00:14.451+00:00PS and sentenced to a 12 month community order.PS and sentenced to a 12 month community order.Pollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10502031456581056874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-24492186553637435572018-01-12T14:58:05.170+00:002018-01-12T14:58:05.170+00:00Hi Nick, I've just seen on the BBC news that h...Hi Nick, I've just seen on the BBC news that he has been fined £10,000.Pollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10502031456581056874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-82128547361935999062018-01-07T19:50:02.620+00:002018-01-07T19:50:02.620+00:00Jenny: The analogy with other people's jobs is...Jenny: The analogy with other people's jobs is a good one. What this surgeon did is a similar act of vandalism. And the vandalism of a grown adult who should well understand why it isn't acceptable.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-89513292295017296672018-01-07T19:17:36.812+00:002018-01-07T19:17:36.812+00:00It's unacceptable, because that is his job. I...It's unacceptable, because that is his job. If you work in a cafe you don't carve your initials on the tables, if you work in a library you don't scribble your name on the books. the patient's liver didn't belong to him and he had a job to do. And it does show contempt. Jenny Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16881781466502273314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-77515646473991025802017-12-28T07:35:31.598+00:002017-12-28T07:35:31.598+00:00Helen: Those are roughly my own thoughts as well. ...Helen: Those are roughly my own thoughts as well. And I still think it's appalling that none of the operating team felt able to report him for fear of the consequences.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-22653725050262183832017-12-28T01:35:55.195+00:002017-12-28T01:35:55.195+00:00I would have his balls for cufflinks. No respect f...I would have his balls for cufflinks. No respect for the patient...the professional equivalent of graffiti.helen devriesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-61706788266614365982017-12-27T18:21:32.944+00:002017-12-27T18:21:32.944+00:00Agent: Okay, I defer to the neurosurgeon's opi...Agent: Okay, I defer to the neurosurgeon's opinion! As another comment pointed out, though, it wasn't really narcissism as his handiwork wouldn't be visible to anyone else. It was more a bit of reckless self-indulgence.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-51753793685803269852017-12-27T12:58:23.299+00:002017-12-27T12:58:23.299+00:00I don't know, Nick - I talked with my son'...I don't know, Nick - I talked with my son's neurosurgeon once and he said very strongly that you don't ever do anything that removes or scars tissue unnecessarily. This is clear malpractice - what the guy did was strictly in the service of narcissism.<br />Secret Agent Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564690116156754219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-63142385970314202372017-12-27T10:36:31.145+00:002017-12-27T10:36:31.145+00:00Agent: But presumably he would argue that there wa...Agent: But presumably he would argue that there was no real harm, just a slightly defaced liver - and that the initials would eventually disappear.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-33091358304980146282017-12-26T21:40:35.786+00:002017-12-26T21:40:35.786+00:00I think this clearly violates the "first, do ...I think this clearly violates the "first, do no harm" portion of the Hippocratic Oath.Secret Agent Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564690116156754219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-38100336050599790842017-12-24T15:20:52.708+00:002017-12-24T15:20:52.708+00:00Polly: This it, he probably did a brilliant bit of...Polly: This it, he probably did a brilliant bit of surgery, but the initialising implies a total disrespect for the patient.<br /><br />Merry Christmas to you too.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-82735051185771186812017-12-24T14:42:04.006+00:002017-12-24T14:42:04.006+00:00PS Merry Christmas.PS Merry Christmas.Pollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10502031456581056874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-39006199396969814732017-12-24T14:40:22.686+00:002017-12-24T14:40:22.686+00:00This is a tough one to answer, especially for a Li...This is a tough one to answer, especially for a Libran like me. <br />Surgeons have ENORMOUS egos, they are second only to God, they save lives, and I would be eternally grateful to the man if he saved my life, and if my liver was intact and functioning it wouldn’t really matter if his initials were on it. But it is the respect thing, he showed a complete lack of it, the patient is just another notch on his scalpel. <br />Pollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10502031456581056874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-23558179631599184442017-12-24T13:33:21.791+00:002017-12-24T13:33:21.791+00:00His/her is cumbersome. Their is more succinct and ...His/her is cumbersome. Their is more succinct and is widely understood to mean his or her. From the Grammar Pragmatist. Happy Christmas!Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-77917751446863162272017-12-24T12:46:38.907+00:002017-12-24T12:46:38.907+00:00Your use of the plural "their" in place...Your use of the plural "their" in place of "his/her" detracts from your message. You did not listen in 6th grade. From The Grammar Nazi. (Now tear apart my comment, but I'll continue to watch your grammar.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-91381946188289895802017-12-22T16:22:21.250+00:002017-12-22T16:22:21.250+00:00Kylie: That's my main objection, that he was s...Kylie: That's my main objection, that he was showing disrespect to the patient. Yes, ideally the patient should have consented to everything the surgeon is planning, but I guess if there's some medical emergency during the operation and something unplanned is necessary to put things right, then the surgeon has to go ahead anyway. You can hardly let the patient die for lack of consent.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-65224837910617898012017-12-22T10:08:21.259+00:002017-12-22T10:08:21.259+00:00There are many, many women who suffer birth trauma...There are many, many women who suffer birth trauma because midwives or doctors don't give the patient their rightful bodily autonomy. There are many interventions that are done to birthing people without their consent and it causes problems in a range from annoyance to major trauma.<br />Obviously an unseen marking on a liver is different in scale and repercussions than say, an episiotomy without consent but they come from the same place which is a surgeons disrespect for the patient and inappropriate sense of entitlement. It is very definitely abuse.<br /><br />For those who are saying a surgeon is within rights to do a procedure without consent when information comes to light during surgery, it is not ok. Every procedure on every patient should have full and informed consent.<br /><br />having said all of that, I think it would be a loss to the NHS or any other medical system to deregister this doctor but there should be significamt counselling and maybe a fine.kyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08964475783207438103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-12996979173839691212017-12-22T09:22:04.820+00:002017-12-22T09:22:04.820+00:00www: You do have to ask that. In my eyes it inevit...www: You do have to ask that. In my eyes it inevitably damages his reputation as a surgeon.<br /><br />Linda: Well, poor judgment when it comes to a surgical "prank" maybe, but not necessarily poor judgment over the surgery itself.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-23566174813109983842017-12-21T22:50:17.483+00:002017-12-21T22:50:17.483+00:00To me it shows poor judgement. I would not want a ...To me it shows poor judgement. I would not want a surgeon with poor judgement operating on me.Linda Sandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12734450335251336493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-24012231531642705402017-12-21T21:34:12.653+00:002017-12-21T21:34:12.653+00:00I've seen this on the news. My first reaction ...I've seen this on the news. My first reaction was the old adage "how he does one thing is how he does all things" and I wonder what/who else he abuses. I'd call it abuse.<br /><br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-26670755601571675542017-12-21T05:54:27.878+00:002017-12-21T05:54:27.878+00:00Jean: Given that he's a very skilled surgeon, ...Jean: Given that he's a very skilled surgeon, it would be crazy to stop him practising because of one stupid prank. The article does say that although the GMC issued a formal warning, they haven't banned him from surgery.nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-46719227265571940462017-12-21T05:07:43.737+00:002017-12-21T05:07:43.737+00:00He admits it was wrong, and apparently at least on...He admits it was wrong, and apparently at least one patient thinks he should be reinstated, so maybe a sincere apology and let patients decide if they trust him? CheerfulMonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934008738777906970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-41645356073901695102017-12-20T15:49:17.936+00:002017-12-20T15:49:17.936+00:00Scarlet: I agree, "carve" is a bit infla...Scarlet: I agree, "carve" is a bit inflammatory. I also agree, livers aren't hard. That's a thumbs down for carve, then....nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3467242994126386706.post-20530435442114626792017-12-20T14:51:05.835+00:002017-12-20T14:51:05.835+00:00Are livers hard then?
SxAre livers hard then?<br />SxMs Scarlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449626572478125088noreply@blogger.com